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[adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433295] Fri, 22 December 2017 09:50 Go to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Good morning,

I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of course).

Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid, Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or closely grasp.

Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!

Blessed be,
Kaifi J.



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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433297 is a reply to message #433295] Fri, 29 December 2017 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

It sounds like it would be a great fit for you! Your interests and
practices seem like they line up nicely with what we do. The Dedicant's
Path would likely be a good way for you to explore and learn more about
lots of things, including yourself. Also, ADF is interested in orthopraxy
(the actions you do) not orthodoxy (the group doesn't legislate what you
believe).

But you know, you don't have to commit to a lifetime membership anyway. You
can join for a year, give the DP and ADF in general a shot, and then decide
if it's working for you.

Best,
Tess

On Dec 29, 2017 2:02 PM, "Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry" <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several
> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order
> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the
> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
> course).
>
> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a
> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
> closely grasp.
>
> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> Blessed be,
> Kaifi J.
>
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433298 is a reply to message #433295] Fri, 29 December 2017 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.

​Bright blessings,

Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid ​& Grove Organizer​

Phone/Text: 757-572-5874

Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com

*Three Branch River Grove, ADF*

*Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several
> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order
> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the
> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
> course).
>
> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a
> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
> closely grasp.
>
> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> Blessed be,
> Kaifi J.
>
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433303 is a reply to message #433295] Sat, 30 December 2017 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org


For those who are curious about the warp speed COoR...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km_SnptrgJw

(It was Rev. Melissa Hill, and she did it in under 2 minutes -- although there could be other examples online out there.)


On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:00:01 -0600
adf-druidry-request@lists.adf.org wrote:

> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500
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> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.

--
Joshua Boehme

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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433396 is a reply to message #433295] Wed, 03 January 2018 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

In a message dated 12/30/2017 11:11:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org writes:

>The COoR does not
need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests.

I've got a solitary version of it on my youtube channel that takes
about 10 minutes. See here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnustkF7o5t8zwoKnwLXx 7iazRooUUslZ


David Fickett-Wilbar
(Ceisiwr Serith)
_www.ceisiwrserith.com_ (http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/)
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433398 is a reply to message #433303] Sun, 31 December 2017 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: slinkiedox@yahoo.com

Love it.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Joshua Boehme via ADF-Druidry wrote:
For those who are curious about the warp speed COoR...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km_SnptrgJw

(It was Rev. Melissa Hill, and she did it in under 2 minutes -- although there could be other examples online out there.)


On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:00:01 -0600
adf-druidry-request@lists.adf.org wrote:

> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500
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> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.

--
Joshua Boehme

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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433400 is a reply to message #433295] Sun, 31 December 2017 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Good morning and Happy New Year!

I find myself loving Druidry more and more. Being a free spirit, I needed a
spirituality that did not govern my beliefs but would emphasize proper
conduct. I think Druidry is perfect for free spirits. I'm currently on the
DP and am enjoying it. I'm sorry I'm not always responsive; I'm busy
between the DP and graduate school. But know that Druidry is a great path
to get into.

Christian

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several
> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order
> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the
> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
> course).
>
> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a
> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
> closely grasp.
>
> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> Blessed be,
> Kaifi J.
>
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
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Christian L. Wade
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433401 is a reply to message #433298] Sun, 31 December 2017 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Thank you for that bit of information about the efficiency of COoR ritual and orthopraxy, Linda! Does the Dedicant manual contain some of the liturgy that a new member could use to work through a basic ritual, in addition to directions on what to do? That will be very helpful when I start the Dedicant path. I also appreciate the freedom of belief and creed that ADF respects, and I already agree with the core values I read on the article "What Neopagan Druids believe?" and the basis of the nine Druid virtues. I'm pleased that ADF is a "big tent" in terms of Indo-European practices and deities and that there can also be room for an Earth-loving, panentheistic, ex-Muslim Asian American like me :) I am also moved by how welcoming members of ADF have been toward my inquiries so far, both on this thread and on the ADF Facebook page! Much gratitude and blessings for all of this, and happy New Year to everyone!



warmth and peace,

Kaifi


----

May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.






---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry <adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----




Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not

need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being

done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not

orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell

people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if

ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.



​Bright blessings,



Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid ​& Grove Organizer​



Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>



Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com



*Three Branch River Grove, ADF*



*Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*



3401 Arlington Place,



Portsmouth, VA 23707



*Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com



*Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



*Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <

adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:



> Good morning,

>

> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several

> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order

> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its

> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the

> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am

> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and

> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on

> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic

> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of

> course).

>

> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the

> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also

> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the

> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,

> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a

> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or

> closely grasp.

>

> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!

>

> Blessed be,

> Kaifi J.

>

>

>

> ----

>

> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433402 is a reply to message #433298] Sun, 31 December 2017 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name? Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?



warm blessings,

Kaifi


----

May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.






---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry <adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----




Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not

need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being

done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not

orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell

people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if

ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.



Bright blessings,



Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer



Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>



Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com



*Three Branch River Grove, ADF*



*Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*



3401 Arlington Place,



Portsmouth, VA 23707



*Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com



*Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



*Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <

adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:



> Good morning,

>

> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several

> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order

> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its

> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the

> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am

> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and

> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on

> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic

> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of

> course).

>

> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the

> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also

> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the

> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,

> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a

> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or

> closely grasp.

>

> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!

>

> Blessed be,

> Kaifi J.

>

>

>

> ----

>

> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433408 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

While many people do choose a religious name, you certainly don't have to.
I'm lucky enough that I can be openly pagan with my given name, and thus
don't feel the need for a pagan name.

On Jan 6, 2018 11:12 AM, "Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry" <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry &
> lt;adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----
>
>
>
>
> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
>
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
>
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
>
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
>
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
>
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Bright blessings,
>
>
>
> Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer
>
>
>
> Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>
>
>
>
> Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Three Branch River Grove, ADF*
>
>
>
> *Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*
>
>
>
> 3401 Arlington Place,
>
>
>
> Portsmouth, VA 23707
>
>
>
> *Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/
>
>
>
> *Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
>
> adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good morning,
>
> >
>
> > I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and
> several
>
> > of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New
> Order
>
> > of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
>
> > teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest
> in the
>
> > wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
>
> > specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
>
> > environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
>
> > elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
>
> > liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
>
> > course).
>
> >
>
> > Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
>
> > Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
>
> > mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
>
> > Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
>
> > Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects
> of a
>
> > universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
>
> > closely grasp.
>
> >
>
> > Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> >
>
> > Blessed be,
>
> > Kaifi J.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----
>
> >
>
> > May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433409 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

As this is a moderated list, you will likely get a bunch of similar
responses all at once (or none at all, it's so difficult to tell).

Let me put on my story telling hat, light my pipe, and drop my voice
some for this....

In the old days, pagans were secretive, fearful that at any moment they
would be outed by nosy Christians or other busybodies who wished to
caused trouble, put jobs at risk, place child custody on shaky ground,
and so on.  In those days, it was pretty common - dare I say
"traditional" - to chose or seek to be given a secret name that could be
shared among others of the pagan community without revealing your real
person.  When the internet began, those names were often the first
'handles' used in chat and elist groups.  By the mid aughts -
particularly as Facebook began to dominate the internet interaction -
many people had become pretty used to having their personal information
out there for all to see.  While some attempted to go against FB's TOS
agreements and use pseudonyms, they were soon reported and forced to
either create ever shifting account names, or simply forgo the cover
name for their given name.

These days, few take a Religious or Magical name, except as part of a
dedication to a particular being or group of beings or for a special
initiation.  Ironically, the newer use of the religious/magical name
comes with a reluctance to share it.  It is a name given to you and
reserved for your interaction with the one or ones who gave it to you,
and no one else.

In ADF, there is a searchable database of members available to both
members and non-members.  Access is limited specifically by each
individual's information according to their personal preferences.  Some
still choose to only be publicly listed by their magical or spiritual
name, others - especially if they have become clergy - choose to share
their full name to the world, proudly wearing the title of Pagan
Clergy.  Still others have simply never chosen a religious or magical
name for various personal reasons or have one and refuse to share it -
even to members of their religion.

You could choose a temporary name based on a deity or concept you admire
- there are oodles of Rhiannons, (Lady) Morgans, and Merlins out there
as well as Grey Wolfs, Hunters, and other such. You could meditate and
say prayers to the deity or deities you most admire and ask them if
there is another name you should be known by.  But there is no set way
to find one or choose one.

All this to say, you do not need to have a religious name to join ADF
nor to remain a longtime member. And, you can add a name at any time in
your membership should acquire and choose to share one.

Beej

On 12/31/2017 06:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry wrote:
> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name? Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>


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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433411 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

First and foremost: You don't need to. Many of the very respected
people in our community use the names they were born with.

However, some people have adopted names that they feel describe
themselves better. You might find that sort of thing via meditation,
intuition, or divination. Or just find a name that you think sounds
cool. If you do, and would like people to call you that rather than
"Kaifi", then use that box to tell ADF what name that is.

To see this in action, I'm about to sign this email with a name I
wasn't born with, but most folks in ADF know me by.

- Thexalon

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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433412 is a reply to message #433401] Sat, 06 January 2018 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

The short answer is yes. In addition there is a primer on the website. I believe it is in the members only section. 
Blessings,  Linda Sager Kazalski,  Senior DruidThree Branch River Grove,  ADF
-------- Original message --------From: Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry Date: 12/31/17 9:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: ADF-Druidry Mailing List Cc: Kaifi J Subject: Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me
Thank you for that bit of information about the efficiency of COoR ritual and orthopraxy, Linda!  Does the Dedicant manual contain some of the liturgy that a new member could use to work through a basic ritual, in addition to directions on what to do?  That will be very helpful when I start the Dedicant path.  I also appreciate the freedom of belief and creed that ADF respects, and I already agree with the core values I read on the article "What Neopagan Druids believe?" and the basis of the nine Druid virtues.  I'm pleased that ADF is a "big tent" in terms of Indo-European practices and deities and that there can also be room for an Earth-loving, panentheistic, ex-Muslim Asian American like me :)  I am also moved by how welcoming members of ADF have been toward my inquiries so far, both on this thread and on the ADF Facebook page!  Much gratitude and blessings for all of this, and happy New Year to everyone!



warmth and peace,

Kaifi


----

May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.






---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry <adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----




Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not

need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being

done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not

orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell

people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if

ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.



​Bright blessings,



Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid ​& Grove Organizer​



Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>



Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com



*Three Branch River Grove, ADF*



*Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*



3401 Arlington Place,



Portsmouth, VA 23707



*Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com



*Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



*Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <

adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:



> Good morning,

>

> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several

> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order

> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its

> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the

> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am

> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and

> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on

> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic

> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of

> course).

>

> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the

> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also

> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the

> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,

> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a

> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or

> closely grasp.

>

> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!

>

> Blessed be,

> Kaifi J.

>

>

>

> ----

>

> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433413 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

You don't need a religious name. I don't generally use one, though I have used a name my grandfather gave me in the past.
There is apparently a delay in delivery. I just received several emails from December 31.
Blessings,  Linda Sager Kazalski,  Senior DruidThree Branch River Grove,  ADF

-------- Original message --------From: Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry Date: 12/31/17 9:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: ADF-Druidry Mailing List Cc: Kaifi J Subject: Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF
Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?  Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?



warm blessings,

Kaifi


----

May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.






---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry <adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----




Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not

need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being

done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not

orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell

people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if

ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.



Bright blessings,



Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer



Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>



Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com



*Three Branch River Grove, ADF*



*Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*



3401 Arlington Place,



Portsmouth, VA 23707



*Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com



*Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/



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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <

adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:



> Good morning,

>

> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several

> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order

> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its

> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the

> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am

> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and

> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on

> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic

> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of

> course).

>

> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the

> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also

> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the

> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,

> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a

> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or

> closely grasp.

>

> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!

>

> Blessed be,

> Kaifi J.

>

>

>

> ----

>

> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.

>

>

>

>

>

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433414 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Kaifi,

I think you may be misunderstanding. The question about 'religious name'
is asking if you already have a name you use in spiritual, magical, or
other related settings. Such a name isn't something you typically choose
upon becoming a member. You can if you want, of course, or find one after
becoming a member... or not have one at all. I suspect there are many
different ways people come to their practice names, as much as there are
many paths followed before and within ADF membership. In my case, I have a
chosen name, but keep it generally private. For others, their religious
name is better known, even more used, than their legal name. I'd recommend
leaving that section blank, but keeping the question in mind as you learn
more.

Nathan

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry &
> lt;adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----
>
>
>
>
> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
>
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
>
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
>
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
>
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
>
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Bright blessings,
>
>
>
> Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer
>
>
>
> Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>
>
>
>
> Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Three Branch River Grove, ADF*
>
>
>
> *Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*
>
>
>
> 3401 Arlington Place,
>
>
>
> Portsmouth, VA 23707
>
>
>
> *Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Facebook Group:* www.facebook.com/groups/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/
>
>
>
> *Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
>
> adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good morning,
>
> >
>
> > I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and
> several
>
> > of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New
> Order
>
> > of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
>
> > teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest
> in the
>
> > wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
>
> > specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
>
> > environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
>
> > elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
>
> > liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
>
> > course).
>
> >
>
> > Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
>
> > Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
>
> > mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
>
> > Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
>
> > Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects
> of a
>
> > universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
>
> > closely grasp.
>
> >
>
> > Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> >
>
> > Blessed be,
>
> > Kaifi J.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----
>
> >
>
> > May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ___________________________________________________________
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433415 is a reply to message #433396] Sat, 06 January 2018 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

To add to the mix of short Core Order rituals, Raven's Cry Grove
presented a fully compliant ritual at Pagan Pride Day L.A. with 56
participants that took total of less than 25 minutes with all people
participating in a paired greeting and passing a blessing cup to all.

Mike Talvola
Senor Druid, Raven's Cry Grove, ADF




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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433416 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Hi Kaifi

A religious name isn't actually something totally required! Some use them
and some don't. I have mine set with my name I go by on a regular basis (I
no longer use my legal name). It all depends on your own path and history
whether you have something already or not but they are totally not required!

Chelly Couvrette


Chelly

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry &
> lt;adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote ----
>
>
>
>
> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
>
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
>
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
>
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
>
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
>
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Bright blessings,
>
>
>
> Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer
>
>
>
> Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>
>
>
>
> Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Three Branch River Grove, ADF*
>
>
>
> *Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*
>
>
>
> 3401 Arlington Place,
>
>
>
> Portsmouth, VA 23707
>
>
>
> *Email/Public Calendar:* Three.Branch.River.Grove@gmail.com
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *Facebook Page:* www.facebook.com/ThreeBranchRiverGroveADF/
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
>
> adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Good morning,
>
> >
>
> > I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and
> several
>
> > of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New
> Order
>
> > of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
>
> > teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest
> in the
>
> > wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
>
> > specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
>
> > environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
>
> > elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
>
> > liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
>
> > course).
>
> >
>
> > Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
>
> > Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
>
> > mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
>
> > Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
>
> > Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects
> of a
>
> > universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
>
> > closely grasp.
>
> >
>
> > Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> >
>
> > Blessed be,
>
> > Kaifi J.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----
>
> >
>
> > May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433417 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

I don't use a religious name, myself. Trying to choose one, back when I was
younger, made me feel like I was trying to be someone I wasn't in religious
contexts. Or like I was keeping spirituality separate from the real me. I
don't need or want to hide who I am, either.

Sorry, I know that's not helpful if you want one! I know not everyone feels
the same way about them as I do.
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433419 is a reply to message #433402] Sat, 06 January 2018 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

There is no requirement to choose a religious name, it is an option
available for those who desire it. I chose mine, Rae mac Lugh, to honor my
ancestors, and to acknowledge the role Lugh has in my life.

Your's in Service,
Rae (Wes)

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433420 is a reply to message #433295] Sun, 07 January 2018 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Honestly that’s a question only you can answer. Different groups appeal to
different people. For example, I’ve been a member now of ADF for a few
years but I will not be renewing my membership. In my experience (I speak
for myself only) I’ve found that in ADF if you don’t believe roughly what
the rest of ADF believes (I.e. your anything but an animist or polytheist
in your personal path) you will not be completely accepted. I have found
this out the hard way as my personal spiritual path has been used against
me within ADF. I’ve personally found OBOD to be more of what I’m looking
for. It’s more diverse, more open minded, and you truly have the freedom to
worship whomever and whatever you want.

On Friday, December 22, 2017, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several
> of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order
> of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
> teachings about nine virtues, meditation, right action, and interest in the
> wide span of Indo-European deities rather than just Celtic alone. I am
> specifically interested in the philosophical, ethical, mystical, and
> environmental aspects of Druid faith and practice but not so much on
> elaborate ritual. (I would like to celebrate the High Days with basic
> liturgy and simple ritual that is in harmony with the Core Order, of
> course).
>
> Could anyone provide some guidance on whether ADF as a whole, and the
> Dedicant path specifically, would be a good fit for me? I should also
> mention that I'm not a hard polytheist but do pray to some of the
> Indo-European figures such as Dyeus Pitr, Earth Mother, Mitra, Brigid,
> Cernunnos, and others. I believe all deities are approachable aspects of a
> universal spirit or cosmic whole which the human mind can't worship or
> closely grasp.
>
> Wishing everyone a blessed Yule this year and happy New Year for 2018!
>
> Blessed be,
> Kaifi J.
>
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [adf-druidry] wondering if ADF is right fit for me [message #433430 is a reply to message #433420] Sun, 07 January 2018 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

My religious name or witch name or pagan name or whatever you would like to call it is Purple Dragon. Purple is my favorite color and the one that speaks to me the most. And the Dragon is my spirit animal. The animal to which I identify with the most. Hope this helps.

Purple Dragon
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433431 is a reply to message #433419] Sun, 07 January 2018 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

When I first started in paganism, religious names were common, but I never
found one I liked. Then I joined a coven that would have *given* me a
religious name, should I have become an initiate. When that didn't work
out, and I joined ADF, I did so under my given name, and have used that
ever since here. It's never been a problem - though I expect eventually the
beings I work with may assign me a name, I'll still do the majority of my
work under my own name both here and in my grove.

But then, I have three grove members who use exclusively religious names
for all of their communication. It's very much up to you!

Blessings,

Lauren Mart
Senior Druid, Nine Waves Grove
AS Vice Chair of the Northern Kin

"Þæs ofereode, þisses swa mæg. (That was overcome, so may this be.)" - from
The Deor


On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Wesley Jolly via ADF-Druidry <
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:

> There is no requirement to choose a religious name, it is an option
> available for those who desire it. I chose mine, Rae mac Lugh, to honor my
> ancestors, and to acknowledge the role Lugh has in my life.
>
> Your's in Service,
> Rae (Wes)
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry <
> adf-druidry@lists.adf.org> wrote:
>
> > Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online
> form
> > I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> > Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and
> Vedic
> > names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
> >
> >
> >
> > warm blessings,
> >
> > Kaifi
> >
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433432 is a reply to message #433402] Sun, 07 January 2018 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have been a member of ADF for many years, and while I am primarily solitary, have not completed my DP yet, and am still a rookie in terms of actual practice, I am very glad to be a member, and have all of the great resources that come with it. In terms of a choosing a religious name, for a long time this was something I didn't really think about much, or when I did, it felt like I was trying to force something to happen. I still generally go by my legal name in ADF and other groups, although an alternate name came to me eventually - Aiwendil Sylvanus. I am hugely interested in birds and other animals, and Aiwendil is the original name of the wizard Radagast the Brown from Lord of the Rings/Hobbit fame. It means "lover of birds" or "friend to birds." Sylvanus is from my love of trees and being in the forest, and roughly means "of the forest." I have also arrived at a name for the place where I live - Quertarmagh Grove. The property where my house stands used to be part of an orchard many years ago. Quert, according to some, is the Ogham word for Apple, and Armagh is a city and county in the north of Ireland. County Armagh is known as the orchard county, and is also a part of Ireland where part of my family is said to come from...

Jeremy

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433433 is a reply to message #433402] Sun, 07 January 2018 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

In a message dated 1/7/2018 11:16:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org writes:

> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online
form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and
Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi

I would suggest that you go by your legal name if at all possible.
That will allow you to better incorporate your religion into your everyday
life; it won't just be something you do when you're someone else. It also
helps ADF in particular, and Paganism in general, in gaining acceptance in the
world as a whole. It says that you, as just you, have as much right to
your religious beliefs as anyone.
This may seem an odd, and even hypocritical, piece of advice for
someone who is mostly known in the Pagan community under a religious name. The
reason for this is that back when my child was young I was a Wiccan, and in
those days that wasn't a very well known religion, and suffered from its
connection, and sometimes even self-identification, with witchcraft. I
promised my wife that, for my daughter's sake, I would keep a low profile until
my daughter was 18. However, by that time I had already published a book
under my Wiccan name, and was well-known in the Pagan community because of
that and other activities. It would have been foolish, and bad business, to
abandon the name and the customer recognition that went along with it. In
other words, I was stuck.
In recent years, however, I've decided to reclaim my real name as much
as possible. That's why you'll see it in my signature block first, with my
Pagan name in parentheses. I'm also asking that people call me by it
instead of the Pagan name. I have no choice but to keep "Ceisiwr Serith" for
publications and publicity, but for personal use I wish to be called "David."
I'm sorry I've wandered off from your question into my own life
history. But perhaps it will show you the sort of thing that can happen when you
use a Pagan name. You may find yourself losing your personal identity in
the Pagan world, and it may be hard to get that back.



David Fickett-Wilbar
(Ceisiwr Serith)
_www.ceisiwrserith.com_ (http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/)
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433434 is a reply to message #433411] Sun, 07 January 2018 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

There are people in the pagan community who know me as Bryghteyez, a name my grandfather gave me, but I'm more open now than i was when my son was under age.  I live in an area that has been very conservative in the past. 
Blessings,  Linda Sager Kazalski,  Senior DruidThree Branch River Grove,  ADF
-------- Original message --------From: Dave Kleinschmidt via ADF-Druidry Date: 1/6/18 1:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: ADF-Druidry Mailing List Cc: Dave Kleinschmidt Subject: Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF
First and foremost: You don't need to. Many of the very respected
people in our community use the names they were born with.

However, some people have adopted names that they feel describe
themselves better. You might find that sort of thing via meditation,
intuition, or divination. Or just find a name that you think sounds
cool. If you do, and would like people to call you that rather than
"Kaifi", then use that box to tell ADF what name that is.

To see this in action, I'm about to sign this email with a name I
wasn't born with, but most folks in ADF know me by.

- Thexalon

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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433435 is a reply to message #433402] Sun, 07 January 2018 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

My religious name or witch name or pagan name or whatever you would like to call it is Purple Dragon. Purple is my favorite color and the one that speaks to me the most. And the Dragon is my spirit animal. The animal to which I identify with the most. Hope this helps.

Purple Dragon



> On Dec 31, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Kaifi J via ADF-Druidry wrote:
>
> Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online form I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious name? Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional) Celtic and Vedic names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose their names?
>
>
>
> warm blessings,
>
> Kaifi
>
>
> ----
>
> May the sacred fire of Wisdom rise within you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:00:46 -0500 Linda Kazalski via ADF-Druidry <adf-druidry@lists.adf.org > wrote ----
>
>
>
>
> Personally, I think you would find ADF to be rewarding. The COoR does not
>
> need to be elaborate, in fact, IIRC, there is a YouTube video of it being
>
> done in about 3 minutes by one of the priests. ADF is orthopraxic, not
>
> orthodoxic, right action vs. right thought. In other words, we don't tell
>
> people what to believe. The dedicant path is the best way to discover if
>
> ADF is the correct place for you, in my opinion.
>
>
>
> Bright blessings,
>
>
>
> Linda Sager Kazalski, Sr. Druid & Grove Organizer
>
>
>
> Phone/Text: 757-572-5874 <(757)%20572-5874>
>
>
>
> Personal Email: LSKazalski@gmail.com
>
>
>
> *Three Branch River Grove, ADF*
>
>
>
> *Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF), a Druid Fellowship*
>
>
>
> 3401 Arlington Place,
>
>
>
> Portsmouth, VA 23707
>
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> > I am fairly new to Druidry and have begun to learn about ADF and several
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> > of the other Druid organizations in the world such as OBOD, AODA, New Order
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> > of Druids. I like the religious and fellowship aspects of ADF and its
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433457 is a reply to message #433433] Sun, 07 January 2018 20:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

Here is an alternative for future publications/editions:By David  Fickett-Wilbar writing as Ceisiwr Serith
Blessings,  Linda Sager Kazalski,  Senior DruidThree Branch River Grove,  ADF
-------- Original message --------From: CeiSerith--- via ADF-Druidry Date: 1/7/18 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org Cc: CeiSerith@aol.com Subject: Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF
In a message dated 1/7/2018 11:16:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
adf-druidry@lists.adf.org writes:

>  Another question just came to mind based on the new membership online 
form
> I had looked at before: how does a new member choose a religious  name?
> Could anyone point me to lists of ancient (or traditional)  Celtic and
Vedic
> names, or information on how other ADF Druids choose  their names?
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> warm blessings,
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>  Kaifi

   I would suggest that you go by your legal name if at all  possible. 
That will allow you to better incorporate your religion into  your everyday
life; it won't just be something you do when you're someone  else.  It also
helps ADF in particular, and Paganism in general, in gaining  acceptance in the
world as a whole.  It says that you, as just you, have as  much right to
your religious beliefs as anyone.
   This may seem an odd, and even hypocritical, piece of advice  for
someone who is mostly known in the Pagan community under a religious name.  The
reason for this is that back when my child was young I was a Wiccan, and in 
those days that wasn't a very well known religion, and suffered from its 
connection, and sometimes even self-identification, with witchcraft.  I 
promised my wife that, for my daughter's sake, I would keep a low profile until 
my daughter was 18.  However, by that time I had already published a book 
under my Wiccan name, and was well-known in the Pagan community because of
that  and other activities.  It would have been foolish, and bad business, to 
abandon the name and the customer recognition that went along with it.  In 
other words, I was stuck.
   In recent years, however, I've decided to reclaim my real name  as much
as possible.  That's why you'll see it in my signature block first,  with my
Pagan name in parentheses.  I'm also asking that people call me by  it
instead of the Pagan name.  I have no choice but to keep "Ceisiwr  Serith" for
publications and publicity, but for personal use I wish to be called  "David."
   I'm sorry I've wandered off from your question into my own  life
history.  But perhaps it will show you the sort of thing that can  happen when you
use a Pagan name.  You may find yourself losing your  personal identity in
the Pagan world, and it may be hard to get that back.



David  Fickett-Wilbar
(Ceisiwr Serith)
_www.ceisiwrserith.com_ (http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/)
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433957 is a reply to message #433457] Tue, 09 January 2018 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

I was just curious if anyone has changed their legal name to their
religious name? I was thinking about doing this.

Purple Dragon
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Re: [adf-druidry] choosing a religious name in ADF [message #433959 is a reply to message #433457] Thu, 11 January 2018 09:38 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: adf-druidry@lists.adf.org

I rarely if ever use my "religious name" in social interactions these
days. To the extent I have one at all it's to maintain a consistent name
across related communities that are germane to my Pagan practice and
cultural interests. I suspect that if I met with some of those folks in
certain contexts I'd probably be called Catulus, and I'd possibly publish
Pagan work under it because I'm already using my real name for other types
of publications, but my day-to-day name is the name I mainly use, and I'm
happy using it regardless of where I am.

Choosing to take a name (or not) is mainly a matter of personal
preference. I can fathom times that one might be directed to do so by the
Kindreds, or -- as in my situation -- as part of group participation, but
generally it's more of an "as you are moved" rather than an "it is
required."
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