Session Start: Tue Jun 25 19:50:52 2019
Session Ident: #adf
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28[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org
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29[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * #adf created on Fri May 24 18:37:54 2019
18[2019-06-25 19:51:05] <Mouse> Hi Owlhawk!
21[2019-06-25 19:51:58] <@Owlhawk> 'ello
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16[2019-06-25 20:09:44] <ShazCairns> hello everyone :)
16[2019-06-25 20:09:51] <@Rovena> Good Morning, Shaz
16[2019-06-25 20:09:59] <@Rovena> How are you?
16[2019-06-25 20:10:25] <ShazCairns> Good evening to you. I am doing okay.
16[2019-06-25 20:10:55] <ShazCairns> got my cup of coffee, sitting down for a chat
16[2019-06-25 20:11:05] <@Rovena> Excellent!
16[2019-06-25 20:11:56] <@Rovena> How was your solstice?
16[2019-06-25 20:12:22] <Mouse> Hi people!
16[2019-06-25 20:12:33] <ShazCairns> wonderful, I got to attend 2
16[2019-06-25 20:12:36] <@Rovena> Hello Mouse
16[2019-06-25 20:12:45] <ShazCairns> hi Mouse
16[2019-06-25 20:13:31] <@Rovena> We had to cancel ours as the heat index was 105F and the church's air conditioner was hit with lightning.
16[2019-06-25 20:13:40] <Mouse> Eep!
16[2019-06-25 20:13:46] <ShazCairns> oh no
16[2019-06-25 20:14:11] <Mouse> I trust no people were hurt by the lightning strike?
16[2019-06-25 20:14:19] <Mouse> At least not directly?
16[2019-06-25 20:14:46] <@Rovena> No one was there when it hit. 
16[2019-06-25 20:14:56] <Mouse> That much is good, at least.
16[2019-06-25 20:14:59] <ShazCairns> our weather held up pretty well, freezing cold in Central Victoria
16[2019-06-25 20:16:35] <@Rovena> Not a fan of freezing weather but then people here don't know how to drive on ice or snow
16[2019-06-25 20:16:39] <Mouse> My solstice was interesting.  Last weekend my wife and I went to the North American Gaeltacht for an intensive (Irish) Gaelic weekend.  Sunday we drove back and went straight to hold our solstice ritual, which went pretty well.
16[2019-06-25 20:17:07] <ShazCairns> that sounds wonderful
16[2019-06-25 20:17:11] <Mouse> It was!
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16[2019-06-25 20:18:21] <Mouse> I learnt a craft; I learnt more about the language; I got to meet cool people.  What's not to like? :-)
16[2019-06-25 20:18:44] <@Rovena> Hello Cobalt
16[2019-06-25 20:18:48] <generallyCobalt> Hi hi
16[2019-06-25 20:18:50] <ShazCairns> amazing, what craft did you learn?
16[2019-06-25 20:18:53] <@Rovena> What craft did you learn, Mouse?
16[2019-06-25 20:18:55] <Mouse> (Well, besides the flying wildlife wanting to use me as dinner. :-)
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16[2019-06-25 20:19:29] <ShazCairns> oh, what were they?
16[2019-06-25 20:19:43] <ShazCairns> hi Cobalt
16[2019-06-25 20:19:46] <Mouse> A not-quite-knitting way of making things out of yarn/thread/rope.  At a quick glance the products look knitted, but they aren't; it's got numerous differences on a closer look.
16[2019-06-25 20:20:02] <Mouse> There's a(n English) term for it but I don't recall what it is.
16[2019-06-25 20:20:05] <ShazCairns> that sounds cool
16[2019-06-25 20:20:26] <ShazCairns> is it like macrame?
16[2019-06-25 20:21:20] <Mouse> It was, it was!  Well, it can be like macrame if you do it on a large size.  But on the scale I was working, it is more like knitting in the sort of products it produces - things like socks, gloves, mittens, scarves, sweaters, etc.
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16[2019-06-25 20:21:45] <ShazCairns> cool
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16[2019-06-25 20:22:35] <Mouse> ShazCairns, you asked "what were they?".  If that was asked to me, what is the "they" you're asking about?  (If not, never mind! :)
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16[2019-06-25 20:23:00] <Mouse> I see Rovena's satellite link is being, well, a satellite link.... :-/
16[2019-06-25 20:23:00] <ShazCairns> oh, I was asking about the flying wildlife
16[2019-06-25 20:23:03] <NathanLarge> Good evening!
16[2019-06-25 20:23:08] <Mouse> Oh.  Mosquitos and blackflies and the like.
16[2019-06-25 20:23:13] <ShazCairns> ah
16[2019-06-25 20:23:20] <ShazCairns> hi Nathan
16[2019-06-25 20:23:45] <@Rovena> Hello Nathan
16[2019-06-25 20:23:47] <Mouse> The same stitch can apparently be used on a much larger scale to make fishing nets.
16[2019-06-25 20:24:58] <ShazCairns> Sounds like a great weekend Mouse
16[2019-06-25 20:25:09] <Mouse> And I finally learnt why I've had so much trouble figuring out whether to use "is" or "tá": the rule I learnt was a beginner's approximation.
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16[2019-06-25 20:27:37] <@Rovena> Hello Starquake
16[2019-06-25 20:28:02] <StarQuake> Hello Rovena
16[2019-06-25 20:28:55] <@Rovena> How are you?
16[2019-06-25 20:28:55] <StarQuake> I’m busy tonight so I will be reading while I take care of a few things irl
16[2019-06-25 20:29:05] <@Rovena> Understand that
16[2019-06-25 20:30:40] <@Rovena> Mouse, that is part of the fun of learning a language as an adult
16[2019-06-25 20:34:01] <Mouse> It is!
16[2019-06-25 20:35:05] <Mouse> Though I do kinda wish we'd been _told_ it was just an approximation and could have asked for the real rule when we felt ready to handle it.
16[2019-06-25 20:35:10] <Mouse> But, oh well.
16[2019-06-25 20:35:43] <@Rovena> Agrre, it would have been nice
16[2019-06-25 20:36:29] <Mouse> The ritual went well too.  We had five people, including the two of us, and were a little constrained in what we had available (because we came straight from the Gaeltacht weekend), but I feel it went pretty well nevertheless.
16[2019-06-25 20:37:32] <@Rovena> Intent is an important part of ritual which can get overlooked.
16[2019-06-25 20:38:06] <Mouse> I think that's why it went OK: the Kindred are willing to overlook things such as limited physical form of offerings when the intent is there.
16[2019-06-25 20:39:43] <@Rovena> We have started an offering garden at the church's grove where we hold ritual.
16[2019-06-25 20:40:00] <@Rovena> We have tried before but it is finally starting to grow
16[2019-06-25 20:40:28] <ShazCairns> That sounds lovely Rovena
16[2019-06-25 20:40:37] <Mouse> Sweet!@
16[2019-06-25 20:42:08] <NathanLarge> Is the garden the offering, itself, or do you grow plants to offer?
16[2019-06-25 20:42:34] <@Rovena> A bit of both. 
16[2019-06-25 20:43:59] <@Rovena> The plants are part of the boundary. They are pleasant to the eye and nose. ANy of them could be used as an offering.
16[2019-06-25 20:45:09] <@Rovena> Hubby and I couldn't get anything to grow there for years but a newer member is a gardener by trade and he had gotten everything he planted to grow.
16[2019-06-25 20:45:21] <NathanLarge> It sounds like an excellent idea.  Our Grove recently purchased a dozen saplings, for members to take home and foster until they're ready to be planted.
16[2019-06-25 20:46:14] <@Rovena> That is a great idea, Nathan.
16[2019-06-25 20:47:56] <Mouse> Fosterage applied to trees?  That's actually really cool!
16[2019-06-25 20:48:51] <ShazCairns> It is cool
16[2019-06-25 20:52:32] <NathanLarge> Hopefully, there are no losses, but our record is 3 for 4 previously. :(  One oak didn't make it back from the winter.
16[2019-06-25 20:53:25] <NathanLarge> We have a blue spruce... hopefully, hard to get wrong.
16[2019-06-25 20:56:21] <@Rovena> Don't givr my mother one. She had a brown thumb. Only plant she ever had grow was one she didn't want.
16[2019-06-25 20:57:26] <ShazCairns> my own back yard is my nemeton and I have most of the plants and trees of the Ogham
16[2019-06-25 20:57:40] <Mouse> Nice!
16[2019-06-25 20:57:47] <@Rovena> Cool!
16[2019-06-25 20:57:55] <ShazCairns> It has taken quite a few years
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16[2019-06-25 20:58:49] <ShazCairns> Some, like Hawthorn, are considered pest plants because they are introduced and not native to here
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16[2019-06-25 20:58:54] <@Rovena> Hello Darchildre
16[2019-06-25 20:59:11] <ShazCairns> popped in and out :)
16[2019-06-25 20:59:27] <@Rovena> I am a slow typist
16[2019-06-25 20:59:39] <ShazCairns> hehe
16[2019-06-25 20:59:58] <ShazCairns> same, just a couple of fingers doing all the work
16[2019-06-25 21:00:01] <@Rovena> An orchid in a rose garden is a weed.
16[2019-06-25 21:01:10] <Mouse> "Weed (noun): a plant growing where it is not wanted."
16[2019-06-25 21:04:49] <ShazCairns> I must go, but this was a great way to start my day
16[2019-06-25 21:04:55] <ShazCairns> Bye evryone
16[2019-06-25 21:05:01] <Mouse> Ta!
16[2019-06-25 21:05:04] <@Rovena> Glad to get you off to a good start
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18[2019-06-25 21:09:53] <@Rovena> Owlhawk, I just forwarded you an email from the dedicant forum about problems signing in for chat from a Mac user.
16[2019-06-25 21:14:56] <@Rovena> So what do y'all want to talk about?
16[2019-06-25 21:17:35] <Mouse> Hmm.
16[2019-06-25 21:18:01] <NathanLarge> Sorry if I'm quiet.  Bouncing between here and various projects, though all ADF-related tonight.
16[2019-06-25 21:18:33] <NathanLarge> The Bardic Guild set a wide net with this month's challenge: "the Hellenic Hearth"
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16[2019-06-25 21:18:59] <NathanLarge> Tough to narrow down to just one aspect to write about.
16[2019-06-25 21:19:15] <Mouse> What's the challenge?  Have to write something about some aspect of Hellenism?
16[2019-06-25 21:21:10] <NathanLarge> Right, it's just a inspiration to get us started.  Can be a story, poem, song, essay, whatever comes through.
16[2019-06-25 21:22:25] <@Rovena> Interesting challenge
16[2019-06-25 21:22:38] <Mouse> And, yes, it is a notably wide net.
16[2019-06-25 21:23:03] <NathanLarge> I'm leaning toward a discussion of "trade" as a spiritual theme in that hearth, something I've studied at Hermes' request.
16[2019-06-25 21:23:19] <Mouse> Certainly sounds appropriate!
16[2019-06-25 21:23:45] <NathanLarge> Even tricky to narrow that down further, so it's not scattershot
16[2019-06-25 21:25:19] <NathanLarge> And contrasting trade vs. selling vs. gift exchange vs. extortion
16[2019-06-25 21:28:27] <@Rovena> Talk to y'all next time. Be safe til then.
21[2019-06-25 21:28:32] <@Owlhawk> I answered her Rovena. good night
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16[2019-06-25 21:28:34] <NathanLarge> have a good night
16[2019-06-25 21:46:23] <NathanLarge> heading off, be well all
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16[2019-06-25 22:24:03] <Kerawun> Evening all :)
16[2019-06-25 22:24:20] <generallyCobalt> Hello!
16[2019-06-25 22:25:51] <Kerawun> How's things?
16[2019-06-25 22:26:48] <generallyCobalt> Pretty good! My garden is happy and I cooked food well in advance of crashing into non-functionality. You?
16[2019-06-25 22:27:03] <Kerawun> Nice!
16[2019-06-25 22:27:20] <Kerawun> Doing well, traveling for work so I'm cooped up in a hotel room tonight
16[2019-06-25 22:27:39] <Kerawun> Once of these days we will tame the jungle in our yard and get a garden going
16[2019-06-25 22:27:48] <generallyCobalt> That sucks. They give you decent pillows at least?
16[2019-06-25 22:28:15] <Kerawun> Oh yes.  Enough of them that all but one end up on the floor by morning, lol
16[2019-06-25 22:28:37] <generallyCobalt> Sounds about right!
16[2019-06-25 22:30:04] <Kerawun> I have a nice long drive home tomorrow, so I'm going to listen to the DP mp3s I think.  I feel like I need to start connecting with druidry again
16[2019-06-25 22:31:51] <generallyCobalt> Nice. Any ideas yet or are you hoping for some inspiration from the DP stuff?
16[2019-06-25 22:37:44] <Kerawun> Just a general getting back to basics
16[2019-06-25 22:39:36] <Kerawun> I've been working on my health, and it makes me realize how far out of whack I've gotten, spiritually
16[2019-06-25 22:39:52] <generallyCobalt> Makes sense
16[2019-06-25 22:40:42] <Kerawun> What do you grow in the garden?
16[2019-06-25 22:41:33] <Kerawun> Last year we got a monthly box thing from one of the local farms, you never knew what was going to be in it...it was a blast :)
16[2019-06-25 22:42:37] <generallyCobalt> This year: sunflowers, radishes, a giant and growing watermelon plant, mugwort, a Chinese five color pepper, a poblano pepper, couple of tiiiiiny baby strawberries, and a black raspberry bush that volunteered against the garage. And what is either a marsh mallow or common mallow.
16[2019-06-25 22:43:13] <Kerawun> nice!
16[2019-06-25 22:43:28] <Kerawun> I looooooove poblanos
16[2019-06-25 22:43:47] <generallyCobalt> There was a plant sale at a local farm that gives all their produce to a food bank, so I.... did not really try to control my urges.
16[2019-06-25 22:44:15] <generallyCobalt> Super cheap healthy young plants for a good cause? Oh yes
16[2019-06-25 22:44:19] <Kerawun> That's a good obsession to have!
16[2019-06-25 22:45:27] <generallyCobalt> Keeps me tied to the seasons, so I don't just dissociate away whole years at a time without noticing. Oh! And some dwarf irises and a coneflower. But I got those more recently.
16[2019-06-25 22:45:47] <Kerawun> That's a great way to keep in touch, I like it
16[2019-06-25 22:46:00] <generallyCobalt> And a prickly pear that's making its first prickles.
16[2019-06-25 22:46:14] <generallyCobalt> https://i.imgur.com/jW4fZiM.jpg
16[2019-06-25 22:46:57] <Kerawun> I love that moment when they first pop out
16[2019-06-25 22:47:14] <generallyCobalt> It’s so cute ;_;
16[2019-06-25 22:47:31] <Kerawun> The last place we lived, my wife had quite a few of those hanging planters with peppers, tomatoes, etc
16[2019-06-25 22:47:41] <generallyCobalt> I snagged a fruit off a neighbor's well established plant and one of the seeds clearly survived the squirrel investigation.
16[2019-06-25 22:47:52] <generallyCobalt> Oh hell yes those are cool
16[2019-06-25 22:48:08] <Kerawun> When she started them on the window sill the first time, it was so amazing to see them popping out...I didn't quite believe it was really going to happen
16[2019-06-25 22:48:41] <Kerawun> Nothing like making breakfast and going out and grabbing some veggies off the vine 
16[2019-06-25 22:48:51] <generallyCobalt> Oh for real
16[2019-06-25 22:49:28] <generallyCobalt> I had green bell peppers last year and those are like my fav veggie. The cucumber was a violent little cuss but the fruits were good!
16[2019-06-25 22:52:15] <Kerawun> We were just starting to get some stuff growing on the ground...zucchinis, tomatillos I think, when we had to move :(
16[2019-06-25 22:52:22] <Kerawun> I hope the next tenants appreciated them
16[2019-06-25 22:53:01] <generallyCobalt> I bet they did. I had a neighbor once leave me her purple sage when she moved and I loved it.
16[2019-06-25 22:54:49] <Kerawun> That's crazy, it's barely out of the dirt and the prickly part is already starting
16[2019-06-25 22:55:02] <Kerawun> That seems like something that would develop later
16[2019-06-25 22:55:20] <generallyCobalt> Yeah it was a surprise. An adorable thorny surprise.
16[2019-06-25 22:55:36] <Kerawun> lol
16[2019-06-25 22:55:48] <Kerawun> Makes sense, protection-wise
16[2019-06-25 22:55:54] <generallyCobalt> So teeny tiny but it's fierce and ready! Nobody's going to catch this one unguarded!
16[2019-06-25 22:56:53] <Kerawun> Like those baby tiger videos of them attacking their dad
16[2019-06-25 22:57:04] <generallyCobalt> Yes! Exactly.
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16[2019-06-25 22:57:16] <generallyCobalt> Eensy baby plant spoiling for a fight
16[2019-06-25 22:59:22] <Kerawun> hi Treewalker
16[2019-06-25 23:01:02] <Treewalker> Hello Kerawun!
16[2019-06-25 23:01:41] <Treewalker> How is everyone?
16[2019-06-25 23:05:00] <Kerawun> Great here, how's you?
16[2019-06-25 23:08:08] <Treewalker> Doing good.  my group did our first adf ceremony for the solstice.
16[2019-06-25 23:08:22] <generallyCobalt> Oh nice
16[2019-06-25 23:08:57] <Treewalker> Yes.   it was 4 of us lol, so a small start.  but a start!
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16[2019-06-25 23:13:16] <Kerawun> That's awesome
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16[2019-06-25 23:27:09] <Kerawun> Think I'm going to hit the hay.  Have a great night all
16[2019-06-25 23:27:18] <Treewalker> night K!
16[2019-06-25 23:27:23] <generallyCobalt> Good night!
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