*** Opened channel log for #adf at 2018-07-10 5:03:59 PM [17:03] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-t50kai.cable.rogers.com) has joined #adf [17:03] *** Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org [17:03] *** Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net on Mon Aug 3 8:55 AM [17:03] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ [18:02] *** DruBear (csherbak@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has joined #adf [18:05] hidee ho neighbors! [18:05] logging on a little early - no idea what'll be happening later - my on call starts today ;( [19:55] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [19:55] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:05] Hello hello! [20:05] Hello Mouse [20:05] How are tonight? [20:05] I am good! My wife and I just spent most of three hours wandering around a local cemetary. Lots of space and trees. [20:06] Victorians loved to have picnics in cemetaries [20:06] ...cemetery... [20:06] (oops) [20:07] We are both better spellers than we are typists [20:07] :) [20:07] 'Twas a lovely time. A good mental/emotional health break for each of us. [20:08] Excellent! [20:10] Some Jewish cemeteries had bookcases with books in them. [20:11] The official reason was so the dead could continue to learn [20:11] ...bookcases? Outdoors?? [20:11] The practical reason was it allowed those too poor to buy books to have access to them. [20:12] ...which Jewish culture would certainly support, I daresay. [20:12] True. Helping others while allowing them their pride [20:12] Also, supporting learning. [20:15] *** Xarn (idx@sorcery-j049qp.m6id.b5v5.fb90.2607.IP) has joined #adf [20:15] Hello everyone [20:15] Heya Xarn [20:16] Hello Xarn [20:16] Still raining down your way? [20:19] Off and on, did the weather improve up ther? [20:19] There?* [20:19] We could use some more rain here. Temps have be lower 90s so that is better [20:20] That’s great it’s cooling down a bit [20:23] Definitely hope it continues, because before you know it fall will be here but hopefully the winter will be largely mild [20:24] Fruit trees need a hard winter to bear fruit. [20:29] I did not know that [20:29] So here’s to a hard winter instead 😀 [20:29] Depends on the fruit/tree, surely? [20:30] Yes, Mouse. [20:31] Peaches needs so many cold days to go dormant as part of their cycle [20:31] Certain apples trees also, I think. [20:31] I've also seen it said applies fit to eat need cold weather too. [20:31] But things like pineapples and bananas? [20:31] Agree [20:32] Those are tropical fruit so they don't like cold [20:36] Well I need to head out, hope you guys have a good night [20:36] 'night, Xarn! [20:36] Night everyone 😀 [20:36] *** Xarn (idx@sorcery-j049qp.m6id.b5v5.fb90.2607.IP) has quit IRC [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] [20:37] Well, at least we are education tonight. [20:37] :) [20:38] I'm not exactly being a scintillating conversationalist tonight, it's true. [20:38] The heat can affect the brain function [20:39] Heat here has been unpleasant but not severe. [20:44] So, what would you like to talk about? [20:46] ADF stuff? Prince Louis' christianing? The rescue of the Thai soccer team? [21:00] Heh. [21:00] Well, here, I'd prefer ADF stuff, since that's kinda the topic. [21:01] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [21:01] (Sorry, RL is tending to drag me away....) [21:03] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [21:03] (Sorry, RL is tending to drag me away....) [21:03] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [21:04] Understand that. [21:06] Any particular topic you want to discuss? [21:07] Hm. Well, perhaps it will spark discussion to mention that, when wandering through the cemetery, we saw squirrels and chipmunks, and I said something like [21:07] "Okay, we have the nature spirits and the ancestors, all we need now is the shining ones" :-) [21:08] Aren't they always with us? [21:08] Well, sure, but so are the others, in much the same sense. [21:08] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has joined #adf [21:08] Hello Drum [21:08] But it's still nice to see them manifesting a bit. [21:09] Hi Drum [21:09] Definitely [21:09] Hi! [21:09] Took me forever to get here! [21:09] I had problems loading Mibbit [21:09] But you managed it! [21:09] Did you take a wrong turn? [21:09] How is everyone? [21:09] Hi, Mouse! [21:10] * Mouse is good! My wife and I had a nice couple of hours wandering through a local cemetery. Lots of space and trees. [21:11] Sammie has destroyed the toy I bought him today. [21:12] [Owlhawk] `'ello [21:12] Hi, Owlhawk! [21:12] Hello [21:14] *** NathanLarge (Mibbit@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) has joined #adf [21:14] Hello, Owlhawk [21:14] Hello Nathan [21:14] hi, all [21:14] Hello [21:14] Hi, NathanLarge! [21:16] We are a quiet bunch tonight [21:16] We are. [21:17] Presumably nobody has happened across the right subject to get our conversational juices going. [21:18] Have I seen you here before, Mouse? [21:18] In our grove meeting this Saturday, we are going to learn to make soft pretzels and shape the dough into offerings [21:19] Ooooooo!! [21:19] Yes, I recall exchanging a line or two with you once upon a time. [21:19] Sounds tasty, Rovena! [21:19] :) [21:19] Excellent [21:19] I'm usually here idling, but every now and again I'm actually awake for these chats. [21:19] Any items of curiosity? [21:19] Hubby's cooking classes usually are. [21:19] From ADF? [21:20] Pretzels, mmmm [21:21] Items of curiosity? I don't have a whole lot to offer in that regard at the moment. [21:21] I meant from ADF! [21:21] :D [21:22] I haven't seen much from the ADF recently! [21:22] Oh, but that reminds me.... [21:22] Yes? [21:22] While wandering through the cemetary we found a tree which had dropped a few small clusters of leaves. [21:22] I asked the tree if it minded if we made off with some of the dropped leavse, and it invited us to help ourselves. So we have two little bunches of leavse. [21:23] Excellent! [21:23] I was reminded of them because 'twas an oak tree, and what you said put me in mind of Oak Leaves. [21:23] :D [21:23] Th original Oak Leaves! [21:25] :) [21:26] Oh, there is a question in mind. Reading Ross Nichols' Book of Druidry, I came across mention of a 'keystone' or something similar, a position reaching across multiple druidic Orders. [21:26] ok [21:26] Is there anyone else doing that kind of role? I'd seen you, Drum, reaching across to OBOD, at least. [21:27] to OBOD, AODA, Anglessy Druid Order, and bow BDO, along with RDNA [21:27] now, not bow [21:27] The Family of Druidry I call it [21:28] BDO? I don't recognize that one. [21:28] British Druid Order [21:28] Ah, thanks. [21:30] Planning to keep that up after the term as AD ends? [21:31] Yes [21:31] I am a Druid and all of the paths have something vital [21:31] excellent [21:31] [Owlhawk] you're implying that he's allowed toescape....\ [21:31] He belonged to many of those before he was Arch Druid [21:31] the trouble seemed to be locating and maintaining contact points for varied groups [21:32] No desire to escape [21:32] [Owlhawk] lol [21:32] I go to the chiefs, if possible [21:32] I've noticed that nobody wants to stay AD forever... [21:32] There are term limits [21:34] We all have our visions for ADF [21:35] ...RL is dragging me away again... [21:36] oh no! come back! [21:36] Don't go into the light! [21:40] I'm also wondering if there's a position that usually has that outreach duty; if it's part of the AD 'package' [21:41] I think that would be the position [21:42] I am the only AD that has reached out to other leaders [21:42] IMR [21:42] I get tired of seeing schisms and isolationism among Pagans; it's nice to see efforts to re-bond, if not unify. Norse heathenry seems to be going through a rough spot that way. [21:42] A lot of the issue is about real estate [21:42] and egos [21:43] I try to remind people that we are an international organization,not one that can't see past our borders [21:44] I don't want OBOD and ADF to merge, but to visit each other and work with each other and most of all understand each other [21:44] I got the point, reading, that separations are sometimes growth. Branches rather than splinters. [21:45] As long as they don't leave the trunk too far. [21:46] They surely can be [21:46] No one organization is going to be right fit for everyone. There is room for diversity. [21:46] Agreed [21:54] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat9@sorcery-oo99lo.com.xplornet.com) has joined #adf [21:54] Hello Raggiedmon [21:55] Ello [21:55] How are you tonight? [21:56] Not doing to terribly [21:56] How bout yourself? [21:56] Doing fine. [21:59] We also have a chat on Sunday afternoon geared to a time for our European members. It can be interesting to see how they view things. [22:01] [Owlhawk] old grouch going to bed. good night [22:02] gnight [22:02] Sy hello to Blondie [22:02] [Owlhawk] she says hello all\ [22:02] Night! [22:02] Hi Blondie! [22:05] There, I'm back. [22:05] *** ShazCairns (Mibbit@sorcery-noir40.optusnet.com.au) has joined #adf [22:05] hello :) [22:05] Shaz!!! [22:06] hey there [22:06] Hello Shaz [22:06] Good afternoon ;) [22:06] it is a good afternoon here. Hoping for some rain [22:07] Hoping for rain as well here. [22:07] Rain, hmmm, I think I remember that... [22:09] It's been a very dry winter here [22:09] oh hi Shaz! [22:09] I saw some rain, once. [22:09] Dry here as well [22:10] June was soaking in Erie, we can deal with another dry week or so [22:10] hi Nathan :) [22:11] Star says hi, if you remember her from Wellspring [22:12] I do indeed remember Star. [22:12] Ang and I are hoping to make it back to Wellspring next year [22:12] yay! [22:13] wonderful, another reason to get there [22:14] cool [22:19] *** star (Mibbit@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) has joined #adf [22:20] Hi everyone :) [22:20] Hello Star [22:20] Hello, Star! [22:21] hi all :) Hey Chaz! :) [22:21] hows everyone going? [22:21] Hey Star [22:22] My office looks like a war zone [22:22] Oh? [22:23] Hubby and friend decided to replace the ceiling and not one wall escaped unharmed. [22:24] Oh no, I'm still renovating here so I feel your pain [22:24] He swears he can fix it but I think it will take more than he is admitting to [22:25] As long as I look onlyat my screen, I am fine. It will take days to get the room reorganized [22:26] Home repairs, yikes! [22:27] I still have to finish the second bathroom before I tackle the main one [22:28] Rovena take it as an opportunity to reorganize the whole room [22:28] At least you finish one thing before you start a new one. Hubby has health issues so he does one thing for a while then shifts to something else due to pains and never totally finishes anything [22:29] I am, Star. No choice as everything has been shifted out of the way into other rooms. [22:30] But you are right, it is an opportunity to make it better. [22:31] :) I hope it goes nice and smooth for you [22:32] It will be an adventure [22:32] Heh. I just painted the bathroom ceiling. [22:33] Painting can make a great difference in a room [22:36] It certainly helped in this case. [22:39] So good news I got my craft project into a consignment store :) [22:39] Woo! [22:40] Excellent! [22:40] *** DruBear (csherbak@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit:] [22:40] Lovely [22:40] *** star (Mibbit@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:41] That is excellent news [22:44] star apologizes, her chat client is down and won [22:44] *won't let her log in again [22:44] :( [22:45] That happens to us all [22:45] Boo [22:46] I had problems with Mibbit earlier [22:47] so did I. Took me 3 tries to get in [22:53] You have got to love technology. [22:54] ;) [22:55] Well, for all its problems, it does let us communicate, most of the time. [22:55] Think I will follow her to bed, though. [22:55] It _is_ getting a tad late. At least for us Eastern-time folks. [22:56] Sleep well everyone who is departing [22:57] *** NathanLarge (Mibbit@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:57] iNDEED [22:57] Oops caps [22:58] That happens to me when I reach for the a and get the caps key instead [22:58] lol [22:59] I think I will get some lunch :) [22:59] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [22:59] Enjoy, Shaz [22:59] Time for me to head off as well. It has been a looooong day [22:59] Lunch is good! [23:00] Lunch is very good! [23:00] Sorry, RDNA joke [23:00] okay, good night to all of you :) [23:00] very, very good [23:00] Good day to you! [23:00] 'night, ShazCairns! [23:00] might be vegemite involved [23:00] lol [23:00] Gods, I love it! [23:00] night Mouse [23:01] Night folks, thank you for keeping me company [23:01] *** ShazCairns (Mibbit@sorcery-noir40.optusnet.com.au) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:01] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:03] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [23:03] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [23:04] Well, looks like everyone has left. I will say good night as well. [23:04] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-kboafn.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Quit:] [23:12] *** Debbrah (Mibbit@sorcery-in9k38.ca.comcast.net) has joined #adf [23:14] Anybody who knows more about this able to head to Facebook to help someone? [23:14] https://www.facebook.com/groups/468253430215759/permalink/601914446849656/?comment_id=601991860175248¬if_id=1531278650795274¬if_t=group_comment_reply [23:15] It is being weird tonight trying to get in [23:18] *** Futhark (Mibbit@sorcery-lc6.too.161.192.IP) has joined #adf [23:18] hey its tyler finally was able to join [23:18] hey debbrah [23:18] Hey there--You made it [23:19] yea the mibbit program finally loaded [23:19] do you feel like chatting about druidry with me? [23:19] What little I can--I'm pretty new to ADF [23:20] I'm very opinionated however, so I'll probably have something ;) [23:20] i have been a member since late 2013. but have still not completed the Dedicant Path program. mainly because i like operating on a more personal level than a level that is educated although im sure i would be able to do a lot more stuff if i do decide to in the future [23:21] the past week or so i have been thinking about coming back to druidry and i took a long hiatus from ADF work to study noahidism [23:22] Well, as I keep being reminded, it isn't a requirement unless you are looking for specific roles or further homework [23:22] Noahdism? [23:22] yea that may have been something that i wasnt thinking of. im not looking for authority positions. noahidism is a abrahamic monotheistic ideology (not technically a religion) that is basically for gentiles that are in a community led by jewish rabbis [23:23] Interesting idea [23:26] yea so what influenced you into joining the druid path? [23:26] i mean inspired [23:28] Well, ultimately it is narrows down to my husband fell in love with a sigil at Pantheacon [23:28] Looked it over, seemed worth a closer look [23:28] still looking [23:30] cool. ive never heard of pantheacon but i guess that is related to pantheism? thats cool though. i use to do ADF rites everyday a few years ago but then due to life and things working out the way they did here this year i have been so focused on producing hip hop instrumental music that i havent had time to relax and pick up druidry again. altho back in [23:31] january i was doing daily devotional rites everyday for about 3 weeks or so [23:31] Pantheacon is a big pagan con in San Jose every year [23:32] cool. unfortunately for me i have never been to a druid gathering yet mainly because i live in the midwest and there arent any druids or enough druids to be able to have a grove [23:32] but i have had some luck with asatru kindreds [23:33] That the hearth kindred you are drawn to as well? [23:33] mostly norse/germanic and celtic however i never was into mixing them together so when i was practicing druidry and asatru i made 2 seperate altars for practice [23:35] although ADF is big on blending anything that is pan-indo-european together [23:39] are you still there? [23:41] *** Futhark (Mibbit@sorcery-lc6.too.161.192.IP) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:42] sorry, called away [23:43] I'm going to run--stepson's plane just landed [23:43] But maybe next time [23:44] and if you stick arround, others may show [23:45] Sorry--trying to do three things at once. [23:45] *** Debbrah (Mibbit@sorcery-in9k38.ca.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbi