*** Opened channel log for #adf at 2018-06-05 7:04:03 PM [19:04] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-hfsa73.cable.rogers.com) has joined #adf [19:04] *** Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org [19:04] *** Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net on Mon Aug 3 8:55 AM [19:04] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ [19:46] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [19:46] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:06] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-hgr7gq.sub-174-230-4.myvzw.com) has joined #adf [20:06] hello Dum [20:06] Hello Rovena! [20:07] And everyone else [20:07] [Owlhawk] hi [20:07] Owlhawk! [20:07] How are you sir? [20:07] [Owlhawk] Drum! [20:08] [Owlhawk] good [20:10] Nice to have the band back together ;) [20:10] [Owlhawk] lol, I've always been here, just been quiet for a while [20:10] Definitely [20:12] So what’s up tonight? [20:12] Quiet so far [20:13] Quiet can be good [20:13] Very true [20:14] I am sorry that I will miss 3 Rivers this weekend [20:14] [Owlhawk] i'll be missing it as well [20:15] Next year maybe! [20:15] *** Xarn (idx@sorcery-fmk0k2.pmk1.bj5f.fb90.2607.IP) has joined #adf [20:15] Hello everyone [20:16] Hello Xarn [20:16] Hi Rovena [20:16] How’s life? [20:16] Hi Adam [20:16] Xam [20:16] Sorry autocorrect [20:16] Trying to see what I have to do to resubmit my completed coursework for the IP [20:17] Lol I should’ve kept Idx, trying out new handles [20:17] Hello Drum [20:17] Do it through the tracker [20:17] Rovena [20:18] The tracker should only give you the option to resubmit that course [20:18] Awesome, I’m still getting my stuff together for the DP. Avesta/Zoro doesn’t have much content ADF wise [20:19] I am sorry, I meant I looking at the new questions I have to add. [20:20] Well if anyone can do it, it’s Rovena :D [20:20] I know many hate Amazon but I would never have found everything otherwise [20:21] That is only because I know who to ask questions of. [20:22] Avesta fan here [20:22] There is lots [20:22] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [20:22] Of Avestan resources online [20:22] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [20:22] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:23] I don't know about Avesta [20:23] Persian material [20:23] Really? There is a lot but I am having trouble narrowing it down [20:23] A bit mixed with Zoroastrianism [20:23] Especially on the ADF site [20:24] You won’t find much on the ADF site [20:25] I’ll take any resources you know of, it’s going to be difficult to research [20:26] Hang on...be right back [20:27] And by research, I mean distinguishing between historically accurate sources and less accurate sources [20:27] Thanks [20:27] Check out Avesta.org [20:28] I have written a yazna rite for core order [20:28] Omg awesome [20:28] I could email it to you [20:28] Thanks this will be a huge help [20:28] I’ll message you my email [20:28] Please [20:29] If you can fb it to me that would be great [20:29] Jon Drum [20:29] Ok hold on let me send it [20:30] Ty [20:31] No problem and thank you [20:32] I will send it later :) [20:32] Awesome 😀 [20:32] Hittite too for those who need Hittite ;) [20:36] each fire Temple has a well Tree and fire [20:37] That’s pretty awesome you wrote a rite. [20:37] And a goat for milk which I use as Earth Mother [20:37] I enjoyed it [20:37] Where did you get a goat? [20:38] I had goat milk :) [20:39] What does it taste like compared to cow milk? [20:40] It is richer and saltier [20:40] It is pungeant [20:41] Was it pasteurized? [20:42] Yes [20:42] Much more palatable [20:42] It is for the well [20:42] Not for the attendees [20:45] Oh I did have another question, so the duality between the earth mother and sky father, is there a reverse, I read that there is a Sky Mother and Earth Father or is ADF strictly Sky Father and Earth Mother? [20:47] Definitely Earth Mother and some call to a Sky Father [20:48] Core Order-wise [20:48] It’s a good duality. [20:50] The Core Order is flexible enough to make it work [20:53] It’s good, the only thing I found weird was when the DP manual goes into waters representing the underworld. [20:53] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-hgr7gq.sub-174-230-4.myvzw.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:53] And proper placement of each sacred object [20:55] The DP manual gives exdample and is written by many people. [20:56] It is not the ADF "Bible". [20:56] exdample= examples [20:57] Ok that makes sense. I also probably need to keep reading, sometimes it becomes clearer later [20:58] Remember, it was written a while ago and probably is in need of an update. [20:58] This is true [20:59] Also, many articles on the website were written when the COoR was different. You can find conflicting material on the website [20:59] That explains a lot lol [21:01] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [21:01] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [21:01] I’ve been doing a bit of reading across a few books I’ve picked up and sometimes it’s like they are just throwing darts [21:01] Wb rovena [21:01] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [21:02] With history it can be a dart game. [21:05] Well I saw Microsoft has new imaging technology that helps rebuild ancient archeological sites. This is something I think we should look into [21:06] They’ve done it Stonehenge even though they say it existed before the Druids [21:06] With* [21:07] Although not with the same technology [21:08] How would ADF use such imaging technology? [21:12] We could take another look at ancient sites where ancient civilizations once lived that were Druids or had Druids there. We might learn something new [21:13] Or maybe historians missed something [21:13] WHo do you think should be doing this? [21:14] Well there’s a museum in Wales that has a section on the ancient Druids. Maybe they could help [21:15] It’s where I saw the rebuilt image of stone henge [21:15] *** DebbrahFoxveil (Mibbit@sorcery-in9k38.ca.comcast.net) has joined #adf [21:15] Hello Debbrah [21:15] Hey [21:17] How are you tonight? [21:18] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has joined #adf [21:18] Good, just got in from voting and grocery shopping [21:18] You? [21:19] Wb Drum [21:19] Ty [21:19] I lost my [21:19] Love people who vote. [21:19] Cool Jane toon [21:19] No I lost [21:19] My connection [21:19] My oldest stepson's first vote [21:19] Gods [21:20] It was adorable [21:20] Excellent. [21:20] My parents stressed the importance of voting in all elections and demonstrated it by voting. [21:20] And then we got him pizza and ice cream [21:21] Cool [21:21] Yay! [21:22] Alright I’m heading out for the night, have a good one! Thanks for all the help as always 😀🏳️‍🌈 [21:23] Night [21:23] *** Xarn (idx@sorcery-fmk0k2.pmk1.bj5f.fb90.2607.IP) has quit IRC [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] [21:23] Night [21:26] Which reminds me--on the FB reminder I brought up the idea of maybe having a second start/someone committed to being there at a later time for kind of a West Coast start. 5pm is really hard to hit. And a lot of East Coast people go to bed before a lot of us are even home from work. Right now, if I'm late, I often won't bother [21:26] I suspect other West Coast people have similar experiences [21:27] *** chrissherbak (Mibbit@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has joined #adf [21:27] At once time, the West Coast have their own regional chat [21:27] Hello Chris [21:27] Hey there [21:27] I don't know if it is worth a separate chat [21:27] Sorry to be so late [21:28] but just knowing there is something later and not arriving in time to say goodnight to everyone [21:28] Hello Chris [21:32] Hey Drum [21:32] Re: time - ya was durprised this wss so early [21:33] But in a way it would be a separate chat in that the East & Central areas would be offline when the West Coast came online. [21:33] Or those who stay up late can stick around [21:34] And early WC people can hang out [21:35] Not like kicking out people from the wrong area ;) [21:35] Kind of a rolling chat [21:37] Yeah, instead of the if I show up at 7 or even 6 my time, it has often already petered out. So anyone coming after that really has no reason to stick around many nights--just peek in, no one, eh. [21:38] But if there was a second 'official' time, if I was before that, I'd look in,see no one, check back at that time [21:38] It rounds up stragglers [21:38] Maybe have hourly topics? [21:39] What would you like to talk about Debbrah? [21:39] Topics was something else I was thinking about--it would be easy to create a numbered list of topics and if no one had anything, use an online random number generator to pick one [21:40] [Owlhawk] we/ve found that leaving the topic open tends to encourage more discussion and questions that newbies are sometimes reluctant to ask [21:41] Right now, I'm enjoying this to see a bit of diversity from the groups nearest me and to feel out what is ADF versus what is their Grove. So I mostly want to boost numbers and watch more people talk ;) [21:43] I was thinking more having a published hourly topic to help encourage people coming on and staying on across the time zones [21:45] "Oh im on the east coast, but ill stay on late to talk about altarclothes!" [21:46] Downside then is the person afraid to ask their question (so as to not interrupt) or the person who feels pressured to not miss out [21:47] No matter how interesting a topic may be, people have jobs to get up for and kids to get off to school making staying on very difficult for them [21:47] Sure .. just thoughts.. afk instapot quick release [21:48] Which is why I was thinking trying to lure more western people on and thinking about what perhaps discourages them from participating [21:48] I would love to be more West Coast friendly just don't know how to do that. [21:48] And for me the biggest one has been the start time. Hence my sugggestion. [21:51] We will see what we can do :) [21:53] Really, it should be enough that it is there. But people generally are drawn to structure--so even a rather faux second start feel welcoming [21:55] My experience has been that the announced topics are usually superceded by what is on people’s minds [21:55] Just my experience [21:56] Anyway, just wanted to put it out there to be chewed on--anyone have anything interesting? [21:58] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [21:59] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [21:59] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [22:01] Drum: thats mostly ok. As long as people show up. [22:01] But how do you get people to show up? [22:02] In person it was offer refreshments, but that doesn't work so well here [22:03] Our attendence is highly variable. [22:04] agreed [22:04] These chats are supposed to help people with the DP and we often do field those questions [22:08] But it has the effect of bringing people together and make friends [22:09] True [22:11] *** chrissherbak (Mibbit@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:13] *** DruBear (csherbak@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has joined #adf [22:13] Hello DruBear [22:13] back [22:13] off the tablet - onto a proper client [22:13] <-- chris sherbak [22:14] Welcome back then [22:14] tanks [22:15] vis Drum - as I recall, the original intent was to help the Sols connect - way back when the air was clean and sex was dirty... [22:15] *** Fulbert-Avebury (Mibbit@sorcery-411l6g.fios.verizon.net) has joined #adf [22:15] hello Fulbert [22:15] Hello Rovena! [22:16] but it's always been a challenge to get people to participate - esp. now as there are more ... uh... modern chat options - and irc is more of a historical novelty for many in the org [22:16] Was not sure if anybody would still be here; had a late work event and decided to try my luck here. [22:16] Is this still the chat related to we newbies? [22:16] we were actually talking about that earlier - maybe there should be an "early" chat immediately followed by a "late chat" [22:17] Fulbert-Avebury: yes [22:17] IRC allows people to sign in on their own and is free. [22:17] Sounds an idea. To be fair, this is the first time I have ever used IRC chat. I know it is used by some of the Wikimedia community that I work with, though was not able to get the hang of it there. It is somewhat anonymous I suppose. [22:18] for a long time it was the only chat method available [22:18] It also is real time, not weeks later looking at a new response [22:18] So glad you fine folks are here. Makes me realize I am not alone in trying to make sense of some of this!! [22:18] it's fallen out of favor in some circles, but still popular [22:19] glad we were here to help you feel less of that [22:19] Great; let me open my bag where I jotted two notes in one of the books I am working through to ask, if that is ok? [22:19] not the glad bits but the alone parts [22:19] ((rolls eyes)) I suppose... (g) [22:19] (like there's anywhere in the multiverse where ADFers >>don't<< want to talk about stuff...) [22:20] Love questions [22:20] Ask away [22:21] Well, with this being my second one of these chats and my first ever talk with ADF folks, this is a strangely welcome forum. [22:22] Here is the first of the two . . . [22:22] We were just complaining about needing more people with questions--you almost literally are the answer to a prayer [22:22] ((i like that - "strangely welcoming"...)) [22:23] I find it an interesting ask for folks to be invited to choose a pantheon (not heard of IE ones before, and not quite sure how some fit together but others are excluded, but that one is for another day!), [22:23] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:23] ! [22:23] and find myself strangely attracted to Cernunnos... [22:23] *** Nightdrum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has joined #adf [22:24] However, really do not see him as Celtic = British Isles, but rather Celtic from Gaul and northern Europe, such as Paris, Gundestrop Cauldron, Reims, and the like. [22:24] ((wonders if we're following protocol... ! = attention, ? = question)) [22:24] The books about Celtic pantheons in the DP list seem more UK/Ireland based and not really of Gaul. [22:24] There is less known about Gaul [22:25] Can somebody offer some insight into how this works in this way? [22:25] Sorry DruBear, I am not clear on the protocols. Must be due to my postmodernist tendencies ;-) [22:25] I think people just jump in Chris, since there are only a few of us [22:26] ya - in ADF - perhaps incorrectly - "Gaulish" is treated separately - i think there was a Gaulish SIG/Kin for a while [22:26] Thanks, Debbrah, most people do not relate me with answering prayers ;-) [22:26] it's not as popular as Irish or even Welsh [22:26] Drum: gotcha [22:26] Could you repeat your original question, before the "however, really do". I was switching from phone to laptop [22:27] please [22:27] Sure, Nightdrum. [22:27] as to choosing a pantheon - I don't believe it's required (I might be wrong - haven't read the reqs lately) [22:27] it's more a of recommendation to help focus your study/practice - syncretism is mildly discouraged [22:28] Agreed [22:28] I do not really see Cernunnos in a UK/Irish Celtic way, but more in a Gaulish way, and in looking over the DP books, I did not really see one that would help with how the continental Gaulish Celtic practices were practiced (though may have missed it). [22:29] If my memory serves me well, the references to Cernunnos are very few [22:29] Problem is we have a lot of Gaulish inscriptions and very little lore [22:29] and as to your private practice -it's really up to you how you "do it" - no one will berate you for anything you do in your home - the worst thing you'll hear is "well, the Ancients don't have a record of doing that ..." or "it's UPG (unverified personal gnosis) - whatever" (said in a slightly condescending tone) [22:29] Gaulish reference material is almost non-existant [22:29] I think Pat Donelea is a Cernennos person - not sure if he's Gaulish tho [22:30] (I want to say Cei as well, but that's a bit fuzzier) [22:30] DruBear is right, you can build it to fit your practice [22:30] Most of what is Gaulish tends to be extrapolated from the Irish/Welsh and Vedic [22:31] The Lore is a guide for how we recreate things, thus "neo" pagan [22:31] Where there is no guide, we have leeway, in my opinion [22:31] Ahh. [22:32] aye - that's Isaac's vision (well, one of them ;)) use other cultures to "fill in" those IE cultures we are less aware of [22:32] exactly [22:32] So in a polytheist way does that mean that if one person has a devotion to one god or pantheon or the like, and others may not, then they just accept those other deities as real but not a focus of attention (vs. real for you but just silly to me?)? [22:33] France has a President but it doesn't mean much to me [22:33] there are a wide range of how people interpret "polytheist" - but ya, mostly (altho we'd defer on the "silly" part ;) ) [22:33] THe only place where Cernunnos name appear is on a pillar in what is now Paris. [22:34] [Owlhawk] good night [22:34] Night [22:34] We really shouldn't tell you what to believe [22:34] gn [22:34] Night! [22:34] as many people say: we are more about how to worship/practice (orthopraxic) than what you believe (orthodox) [22:35] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [22:35] Rovena, yes to the name via the Pillar of the Boatman, but the image is similar in an altar in the Reims museum and the Cauldron as well. At least to me there is a similarity and all from the Gaulish peoples on the continent. [22:35] I can assure you that if ancient Avestans saw my Avestan practice, they would scratch their collective heads [22:35] Thanks, DruBear! Night!! [22:36] And then there is Pashupati [22:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashupati#/media/File:Shiva_Pashupati.jpg [22:36] I do not believe that Gaulish polytheism was a monolithic thing. It was tribal and varied [22:36] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [22:37] drum: likely true for all the Celtic peoples [22:37] right [22:37] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [22:37] Thanks. Question 1 has enough of new thoughts to have me satisfied I have progressed a bit. [22:37] Now, onto my 2/2. [22:38] ok :) [22:38] All of the cultures draw heavily from the other people they came in contact with [22:38] I bought Dangler's ADF DP guide and think it may be helpful. [22:39] I am getting ready to try to start my way through some of it to see how it feels . . . has anybody done this on blogs or online or public to see how people make sense of this through the steps themselves? [22:39] good choice! I've heard it's been helpful to man [22:39] uh many [22:40] there was (? is?) a dp-buddies e-list that might be helpful - I don't know anyone who's used it [22:40] here tho...? [22:40] I know the actual DP specs need to be gathered together, and while I want to try out a few parts of it to see how it feels, I know that keeping it all in Word or the GDoc alone does not seem really helpful on its own, so wondering if there is a community to share some of it with while trying it. [22:41] You can bounce it here, if you'd like [22:41] I am a reviewer [22:41] The thing with the DP is it is 11 separate assignments [22:41] ((chuckles - among other things :) )) [22:41] ;) [22:41] Fulbert-Avebury: Drum is the ArchDruid [22:42] Ahh, the John Drum of repute. [22:42] Shh It's a secret! [22:42] I hope you do not mind I am not dressed in a white robe at present [22:42] when we're online we don't have to kiss his ring [22:42] Sorry, I little humor this late . . . [22:43] Neither am I [22:43] no rings to kiss, just a person [22:43] if you're on FB - there are many people available you might link up with [22:43] Perhaps it is good that there are no cams on [22:43] That is good; I stopped kissing rings when I stopped being Catholic. [22:43] Let me give you an example (DP, not rings) [22:43] Rovena: ((snort)) [22:43] There are nine virtues [22:43] I believe you could finish the virtues in 9 days [22:44] one a day, 150 words a vritue [22:44] virtue [22:44] Objective definition, your definition, and an example [22:44] voila [22:44] or are you looking for someone to show one and verify that's what "they" are looking for? that sort of thing? [22:45] Thanks Nightdrum; I am not really in a rush as there is nothing to rush toward finishing them; ADF stuff is rather new to me, and while some really resonates, other aspects are somewhat foreign so want to feel my way into it. [22:45] Or wanting someone to look at a sample of your work and say if it is on the right path? [22:45] https://www.adf.org/members/training/dp/criteria/index.html [22:46] I do like the idea of there being a number of steps and expectations . . . hard to be a real thing if there were not some shared approaches in common. [22:46] no hurry: it's not a race - no finish line [22:46] I was just using an example with the 9 days [22:46] It is your journey. [22:46] exactly, Rovena [22:47] Thanks for the link; I find the website a bit disorienting to navigate in some ways. [22:47] So do we :) [22:47] (( hehehe )) [22:47] you get used to it after a while - you need to get into the head of the designer/organizer [22:47] I must share that, after only recently joining, I read the report that the archdruid and ADF muckety mucks produced and shared and was quite impressed. [22:48] The Annual Report? [22:48] I really respect the transperancy, something I have not seen in many (most) other spiritual or religious traditions I have explored. [22:49] Again, being a former Catholic, reports were usually held close to the vest in order to more perfectly manipulate the masses. [22:49] well, we've had some time to learn that lesson [22:49] Yes, the Annual Report. Quite nicely written, organized, and complete. Really thankful to have seen it as one of the first documents I received. [22:50] The Annual Report was created last year by yours truly. While input comes from many places, that is my handiwork and I will say I am proud of it [22:50] I apologise for tooting my horn [22:50] We will allow it - - this once ;) [22:50] ok, ty [22:51] Now I have to wait until next year ;) [22:51] Well, again in my real practice, I have worked in large nonprofits most of my life, and have not even seen that level in larger ones. Kudos. Be proud of owning who you (we?) are. [22:51] Who we are [22:51] This is a complete view of ADF [22:51] Well, thus far at least you seem a nice group of folks. [22:52] We try and we want you and everyone to succeed [22:52] Then again, I recall when this first came out! [22:52] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog [22:52] ANd to build your practice [22:53] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/Internet_dog.jpg [22:53] *** Nightdrum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:53] Oops. no photo here (at least not visible in my browser). [22:53] *** dRum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has joined #adf [22:53] If you click on it [22:53] great cartoon [22:53] *** dRum is now known as Drum [22:54] 1993. Anybody remember dial-up? [22:54] Oh yes [22:54] Oh yes. [22:54] REmember punched cards? [22:54] 300 baud [22:54] I still have some! [22:54] And used them professionally [22:55] Alas . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0 [22:55] I used them for a class project [22:55] I used them in 1971 when I took Fortran IV [22:56] they had them in vending machines in the keypunch room at UCLA - like $.25 for 100 or some such [22:56] 1975 for a socilogy project [22:56] Wow, next we may start comparing pills and magazines in MD waiting rooms ;- [22:56] ;-) [22:57] lol [22:57] Got to own our history [22:57] DruBear and I have been around since near the beginning [22:58] very near the beginning, back when amino acids were formed [22:58] Well, my fine friends, I really appreciate the trip down memory lane, some fine camaraderie, and a couple very helpful answers to some questions I have been working through. [22:58] if I can help, nightdrum@juno.com [22:58] Interesting how something like ADF which seems open and welcoming to solitary folks has an interesting structure that is still highly personalizable as needed (and fitting a spiritual life). [22:59] when the air was clean and sex was dirty ... [22:59] lol, yes [22:59] Flexibility is the key to enlightenment [22:59] for a very long time - solitaries were a majority of the membership [22:59] I am a solitary, Fulbert-Avebury [23:00] You will be hearing more about devotional practices this year [23:00] and we tend to attract... unique ... personalities, so conformance is not in our DNA [23:00] True [23:01] Interesting to hear an archdruid is a solitary. Cool. [23:01] I lead a Grove (congregation) in Chicago - but people do things outside the 8 times a year we meet - so the org needs to speak to all those modalities [23:01] like herding cats through a room full of laser pointers [23:01] Love that image Debbrah!! [23:02] DEfinitely [23:03] Well, kind friends, I appreciate all this. Thank you very much. [23:03] Thank you! [23:03] I am off to tackle one last task before sleep calls me forth, so will bid you all ado. [23:03] We enjoy it as well [23:03] And to you [23:03] Come back and see us again [23:03] Til next time [23:04] The best for your evenings and happiness and health to your week. [23:04] night [23:04] :) [23:04] Nite!! [23:04] Night, Drum [23:04] *** Fulbert-Avebury (Mibbit@sorcery-411l6g.fios.verizon.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:05] Well, I need to indulge in a little Doctor Who before bed, just to ease me into the future ;) [23:05] cheerio pip pip and all that rot [23:05] Night [23:06] Night all, and thank you [23:06] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-ht484j.buckeyecom.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:06] Night Drum [23:07] well, sounds like a good time to take my leave as well - take care all [23:07] well met! [23:07] *** DruBear (csherbak@sorcery-48qhjp.il.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit:] [23:07] Night [23:08] Well, and despite it still being early here (8pm) I'm going to bow out and do laundry [23:08] Understand that. Til next time. [23:09] *** DebbrahFoxveil (Mibbit@sorcery-in9k38.ca.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:09] Good night, Blondie. [23:09] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-rsa78l.hnremote.net) has quit IRC [Quit:] [02:49] *** JamieGoodwin (jamiegoodwi@sorcery-jiudsn.res.rr.com) has quit IRC [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] [20:15] *** JamieGoodwin (jamiegoodwi@sorcery-jiudsn.res.rr.com) has joined #adf [00:23] *** Server connection lost [00:23] *** Server connection lost [00:24] *** Server connection lost [00:24] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-hfsa73.cable.rogers.com) has joined #adf [00:24] *** Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). 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Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org [19:37] *** Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net on Mon Aug 3 8:55 AM [19:37] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ [19:37] Ah. Hi Owlhawk! [19:37] Indeed! Hi Owlhawk! [19:38] [Owlhawk] hello. I'm logging in now just incase I'm late getting back from the store with my wife. wee you both in a bit [19:38] See you in a bit :) [19:39] See you when you get back!@ [19:41] Are you currently working on the DP or have you finished it? [19:42] No; so far I have not found time and motivation coming together to get me to even start on the DP. [19:42] :( [19:43] Aww that stinks :( [19:44] Though, to be fair, I'm also not really sure the Dedicant's path is appropriate for me. [19:44] Oh? [19:45] My life is in a good deal of flux right now; I intend to try to let it settle down before doing much path-choosing. [19:45] Ah that makes sense. [19:46] And the emphasis of the DP seems to me to be more on the religious aspects, whereas I'm finding myself more interested in the magic. [19:46] Though, of course, who knows how that may change by the time things settle down enough.... [19:47] Ah. The IP focuses a bit more on magic but you have to do the DP first :) [19:52] *** Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3rs0ts.hnremote.net) has joined #adf [19:52] There's Rovena! :) [19:52] Hi! [19:52] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [19:53] Hello Mouse! [19:53] How are you? [19:53] Recovering nicely from Three Rivers. :) I got sun-scorched and mosquito-bit, but it was a good fest. [19:54] Glad to hear it. [19:54] Hi Rovena! [19:54]