*** Opened channel log for #ADF at 2017-09-19 7:39:30 PM [19:39] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-hfsa73.cable.rogers.com) has joined #ADF [19:39] *** ChanServ has changed the topic on #ADF to "Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org" [19:39] *** Mode change [+r] on #ADF by ChanServ [19:52] *** idx (idx@sorcery-h700b4.3h4g.t8ne.fb90.2607.IP) has joined #ADF [19:53] Hello everyone [19:54] [Owlhawk] 'ello [19:55] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has joined #ADF [19:55] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [19:56] How is everyone doing? [19:56] I am doing fine, Brandon. HOw are you doing tonight? [19:57] Hanging in there, been crawling through the dedicant manual but it helps get me through my day [19:58] Glad it is helping. If you have have a question or concern, we are here to help. [19:58] Been doing daily rituals and that helps too 😀. The pagan gods are good to me [19:59] Dailies can be quite helpful. [20:00] *** idx (idx@sorcery-h700b4.3h4g.t8ne.fb90.2607.IP) has quit IRC [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] [20:01] *** idx (idx@sorcery-h700b4.3h4g.t8ne.fb90.2607.IP) has joined #ADF [20:02] They are 😀 [20:03] There are only 3 of us [20:03] [Owlhawk] it's early [20:03] For the moment but people drop in at odd times [20:04] This is also true. I don't mind I just saw there were like 7 people last time [20:04] *** Onllwyn (Mibbit@sorcery-mtnk1n.publicationprinters.com) has joined #ADF [20:04] We are very early for those on the West Coast. [20:04] Hello Onllwyn [20:04] Hello all. [20:04] Hello Onllwyn [20:04] [Owlhawk] I've seen it over 30 people, and as low as one. it will be, what it will be [20:04] [Owlhawk] 'ello [20:05] Wow that was funny 😂 [20:05] [Owlhawk] ? [20:06] It is what it is. I don't mind fewer people. [20:06] Onllwyn connected right as I commented on how many people were here [20:06] [Owlhawk] ah [20:07] Comedic timing was always a gift of mine. [20:07] Lol [20:07] Given world events, we need all the comedy we can find [20:08] Last week was my first chat. I figured I'd give it another try. [20:08] [Owlhawk] the more, the merrier [20:08] Are you a member of ADF Onllwyn or just visiting? [20:09] I just joined ADF last week. [20:09] Well, welcome. [20:09] ANy questions we can help confuse you with? [20:09] Thank you. [20:09] Don't worry we don't proselytize or bite. [20:09] Welcome to ADF [20:10] [Owlhawk] well, not with out a safe word at least.....; [20:10] [Owlhawk] ;) [20:10] Haha [20:10] I'm brand new to all of it...druidism, paganism, the works. I'm just trying to figure out my way. [20:10] LOL [20:10] [Owlhawk] we shall endeavour to assist you in your journey [20:10] I will warn you - ask 3 druids a question and you will get 9 answers [20:11] I appreciate it. Owlhawk. I still don't know what questions to ask yet. [20:11] [Owlhawk] at a minimum [20:11] [Owlhawk] the beginning of wisdom [20:11] I figured listening was a good place to start, so I joined the chats. [20:12] Just keep learning and practicing and ask your questions when you come across them [20:12] If we don't know we will help you find an answer [20:12] Most of my questions are just about ritual supplies. Everything else is pretty straightforward [20:13] *** Ben (Ben@sorcery-t5d75e.fios.verizon.net) has joined #ADF [20:13] Hello Ben [20:13] How are you tonight? [20:13] I haven't had a chance to read too deep into the Our Druid yet. [20:13] Hello Ben [20:13] Hey, Rovena, how have you been? [20:13] Hello Ben. [20:13] Hey idx! Hey onllwyn! [20:14] Ive been well. Excited to be seeing the autumn changes happening. [20:14] You can read through the FAQ first on the website, it gives a good overview. I'm still going through the dedicant manual [20:14] [Owlhawk] we have a good record in the answering of dedicant questions [20:15] Nice. [20:15] I'll throw one question out. What are the advantages and disadvantages of joining a grove? [20:15] Depends on you. [20:16] I'm solitary so I can't help much there [20:16] SOme people want to be part of a community while others don't [20:16] What do mean, Rovena? [20:16] But one advantage is you have much more freedom in what you do. I do know Groves are very specific with cultural framework [20:17] Mine doesn't [20:17] We do rituals on each of the hearth cultures of our members. [20:17] I'm very naughty and I worship all the info-European gods in the ADF framework [20:17] Indo* [20:17] Fight now we are doing Celtic, Heathen, and Roman. [20:18] Info is good too. [20:18] What is Heathen? [20:18] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [20:18] But ssshhhh no one can know 😉 [20:18] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has joined #ADF [20:18] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [20:18] IT is Germanic [20:19] YOu have Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, and Norse which are closely related. [20:20] My grovemate does Pennsylvania Dutch with her heathenry. [20:20] WHat something is called depends on who you talk to. [20:20] I'm partial to Welsh, so I joined that Kin. [20:20] Kins can be very helpful.\ [20:21] CHeck the reading list on the Kin's page and that kin's section of the DP reading list. You will get lots of good ideas [20:22] I have already bookmarked a few pages from there to read into. [20:23] Unrelated question: What is the symbol in the footer of all the web pages? [20:25] Not sure. Looks like an ogham [20:25] What does it look like [20:26] I am not good with ogham. [20:26] A long horizontal line with a number of short vertical lines only on the far right. [20:26] That would be ogham [20:27] I can't see it because I am on a phone [20:28] https://www.adf.org/system/files/common/adf-ogham.png [20:28] https://www.adf.org/system/files/common/adf-ogham.png [20:28] Trying to paste the url for the image. [20:28] I can't read ogham yet [20:28] I guess it was trying to display it. Clicking on it works. [20:29] Can anyone read ogham? [20:29] Lots of people but not me, yet. [20:29] [Owlhawk] many members can, not me throug [20:29] I bought a book from the store but I'm trying to get through the manual first [20:30] It says ADF. [20:30] *** Star (Mibbit@sorcery-3ru2a2.res.rr.com) has joined #ADF [20:30] Hello :) [20:30] This is kind of funny, any of us probably knows at least 2-3 programming languages yet none of us can read ogham [20:30] Hello Star. [20:30] Hello Star [20:30] Guess we are officially the technopagan group lol [20:30] I just found an image searching for what ogham was. [20:31] https://www.omniglot.com/images/writing/ogham.gif [20:31] My gues is it is Vine, Fowan, and Fern. [20:31] Hello star 😀 [20:31] hi :) [20:32] Ailm Dair Fern [20:32] It is ADF.:) [20:33] Cool! Learned sometime today. [20:34] sometime=something [20:34] Me too. Didn't even know what ogham was. [20:34] *** idx (idx@sorcery-h700b4.3h4g.t8ne.fb90.2607.IP) has quit IRC [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] [20:35] [Owlhawk] as an Hellenic, I don't know ogham... [20:36] As a Celt, it is on my to-do list [20:37] Another question. Being new to paganism -what is a good primer for me, particularly with a leaning towards what would be useful in the ADF perspective. [20:37] *** idx (idx@sorcery-h700b4.3h4g.t8ne.fb90.2607.IP) has joined #ADF [20:37] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [20:38] A Paganism for Dummies type thing. But I'm definitely without the Wiccan flavoring. [20:39] *** ShazCairns (Mibbit@sorcery-7arerq.optusnet.com.au) has joined #ADF [20:39] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has joined #ADF [20:39] More proof I've got a ways to go in my own Druid training [20:39] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [20:39] Learning never ends. [20:40] I had a fun chat with a Wiccan the other day. It was enlightening [20:40] *** ShazCairns (Mibbit@sorcery-7arerq.optusnet.com.au) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:40] I made a comment about how now when I do Druid ritual I feel like I'm doing ritual naked lol. I'm very used to circles [20:41] I almost died when I heard there wasn't any elements in Druidry but when I saw the two currents I was happy again lol [20:41] The ritual style can take some getting accustom to. [20:42] We don't use elements in public ritual but get into the Magicians guild and you may see people working with some intersting stuff [20:42] I do have a question, so if there are no circles to do things like keep things out, does that mean casting a sacred space does the same thing because your in between things? [20:42] Raising and containing power I don't worry about [20:43] What about the two currents and fire being necessary in all ADF ritual? [20:43] I know that's a bunch of questions [20:44] Not sure what you mean by two currents. Every ritual has to recreate the Cosmo using the three portals - World Tree, Well, and FIre. [20:45] THe gatekeeper is there to act as the door bouncer. [20:45] The two currents are fire and water/well, and tree - earth and sky or at least that's what the manual says [20:45] *** Ben (Ben@sorcery-t5d75e.fios.verizon.net) has quit IRC [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] [20:45] Oooohhhh [20:46] I thought it was since you are between things can't get to you because your neither here nor there [20:46] I'll need to go reread that section and take some notes [20:50] Thanks Rovena for answering the questions, I just checked the manual and I do need to review again [20:51] No problem. Not everyone understand things the same way. [20:52] I'm just trying to translate it all into a Witchcraft framework [20:52] So I'm all kinds of confused at times lol [20:53] okay back sorry [20:53] It may not fit [20:53] I'll get it, I just need to keep reading and practicing [20:53] Welcome back star. [20:53] ty [20:53] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has quit IRC [Connection closed] [20:54] You are right it definitely doesn't fit at all lol [20:54] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-7s8.ic2.45.67.IP) has joined #ADF [20:54] Welcome back [20:54] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [20:54] You are right it definitely doesn't fit at all. [20:54] Thanks. [20:55] Each is right in its own way but when you play soccer, play soccer and when you play rugby, play rugby. [20:55] Well. Thanks for the feedback. Have a good evening all. [20:56] That makes sense [20:56] I should start from scratch in my thinking [20:57] Good night Onllwyn [20:57] Night [20:57] *** Onllwyn (Mibbit@sorcery-mtnk1n.publicationprinters.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:58] I'm going to go too, I need to go to the store [20:59] Have a safe trip. [20:59] Good night I guess I'm going to go too so much going on my brain is pinging around everywhere [20:59] Thanks again Rovena, have a good night everyone, i will hopefully be on next week 😀 [20:59] May you have a clam night, Star. 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