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[20:02] <VictoriaLaughlin> Good evening
[20:03] <Rovena> Hello!
[20:03] <Rovena> How are you tonight?
[20:03] <VictoriaLaughlin>  I'm good.  How are you?
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[20:03] <BBersonsage> Hello!
[20:03] <Rovena> Hello again
[20:04] <VictoriaLaughlin> Hello
[20:04] <BBersonsage> haha
[20:05] <BBersonsage> My wife got your email Rovena, thanks!
[20:06] <Rovena> No problem. Just wanted to be helpful.
[20:07] <VictoriaLaughlin> How was everyone's Spring Equinox?
[20:08] <Rovena> Crazy. One person had truck trouble so he missed it. I picked up his 2 stranded passangers so we started late.
[20:08] <VictoriaLaughlin> Ah
[20:08] <Rovena> It was fun and the food was great
[20:09] <VictoriaLaughlin> That's good!
[20:10] <Rovena> Hubby corned his own beef and made a blackberry crumble.
[20:10] <Rovena> We also had deviled eggs and potato salad
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[20:10] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Sounds delicious
[20:10] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Hi OakStrong
[20:10] <Rovena> Hello Oakstrong
[20:11] <OakStrong> Hello all.
[20:11] <Rovena> How are you tonight?
[20:12] <OakStrong> I'm doing okay and yourself?
[20:13] <Rovena> Doing well. Possible tornados for tomorrow.
[20:13] <BBersonsage> Oh dear!
[20:13] <OakStrong> That's not good. We had some of those in the area last week I think it was.
[20:14] <Rovena> No sweat. I've lived in Tornado Alley most of my life.
[20:15] <OakStrong> I have too. Thankfully, there's never been one in my town. At least not in my lifetime.
[20:15] <VictoriaLaughlin> That's good
[20:16] <Rovena> They follow a path usually due to terrain so you and I should be good.
[20:16] <BBersonsage> I didn't know that!
[20:17] <OakStrong> That's good to know. ... I didn't know that, either.
[20:18] <BBersonsage> So when a town gets hit with tornadoes three times in three years, it's actually not a coincidence
[20:18] <BBersonsage> *The More You Know*
[20:18] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[20:19] <Rovena> Exactly.
[20:20] <Rovena> There are patterns to all weather activity. That is what computer predictions are based on.
[20:23] <Rovena> So, what is on people's mind tonight?
[20:23] <BBersonsage> Well, I'm just starting off on the dedicant path, and I was wondering if anyone has any advice
[20:24] <VictoriaLaughlin> Stick with it. It's worth it. :)
[20:24] <Rovena> What part of it do you want advice on?
[20:24] <Rovena> Yes, remember it is a journey not a race.
[20:25] <Rovena> Do you know about the 3X rule?
[20:25] <BBersonsage> everything you put in gets back to you 3x?
[20:26] <BBersonsage> I'm just looking at it and it's so overwhelming
[20:26] [Owlhawk] make back ups in three separate places
[20:27] <BBersonsage> Ah
[20:27] <Rovena> No. On the essays, there is a minimum word count but there is a maximum of 3 times the minimum.
[20:27] <Rovena> ANd what Owlhawk said
[20:27] <BBersonsage> THERE IS A MAXIMUM
[20:27] <BBersonsage> :D
[20:27] <BBersonsage> my wife is going to flip
[20:27] [Owlhawk] take it one question at a time. there are two that are over a period of time pieces,. the rest if you do one question a month, you're be fine 
[20:27] [Owlhawk] meh, I hit 94 pages....
[20:28] <BBersonsage> she just did a 2500 word journal entry..
[20:28] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[20:28] <BBersonsage> and i'm just sitting here barely aware of what a paleopagan is
[20:28] [Owlhawk] most of the DP questions I did in roughly 3 weeks
[20:28] <Rovena> Her journey is hers but the essay will need be within the guidelines
[20:29] [Owlhawk] others take a lot longer. it's the journey that counts.
[20:29] <VictoriaLaughlin> Owlhawk is right
[20:29] <BBersonsage> she's happy to know the maximum!
[20:30] <BBersonsage> one a month doesn't seem too daunting, but I wouldn't be surprised if she does the questions in 3 weeks
[20:30] <VictoriaLaughlin> :)
[20:31] <BBersonsage> so what are your favorite books?
[20:32] [Owlhawk] doing them that quickly does require a certain knowledge base.
[20:33] <Rovena> It depends on what I am trying to do.
[20:33] [Owlhawk] for what topic? or Genre?
[20:34] <Rovena> Ask a 3 druids a question and you will get 9 answers
[20:34] <BBersonsage> I was thinking initially about DP books, but why not expand the question to all books?
[20:35] <VictoriaLaughlin> I prefer nonfiction
[20:35] <VictoriaLaughlin> I don't really have favorites
[20:35] [Owlhawk] because my personal book collection is hovering somewhere around 3 or 4 thousand books....after we did a weed out that filled my car and doubled the campground library....
[20:36] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[20:36] <OakStrong> Lol
[20:36] <BBersonsage> that's...beautiful
[20:36] <OakStrong> I would have to agree with BB...That would be a site to behold...
[20:37] <BBersonsage> Owlhawk is officially my hero
[20:37] <OakStrong> sight*
[20:38] <Rovena> A site can be a sight to behold
[20:38] <OakStrong> Touche.
[20:38] <BBersonsage> a camp site to behold?
[20:38] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[20:39] <BBersonsage> brb
[20:41] <VictoriaLaughlin> Owlhawk, how many of those books have you read?
[20:42] <BBersonsage> I have returned!
[20:42] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Welcome back.
[20:43] <BBersonsage> It was a long and arduous journey, but I have triumphed over the blue pot and will be able to have sloppy joes for dinner
[20:43] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Lol sounds good
[20:43] <Rovena> Good for you!
[20:44] [Owlhawk] all of them. I'm an English Major... Mom made dad get rid of his sci fi collection when they moved...so he did....to my house...
[20:44] <BBersonsage> VictoriaLaughlin, what interesting booklies have you perused lately?
[20:44] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol nice
[20:45] <VictoriaLaughlin> I've been working through a knitting book :)
[20:46] <BBersonsage> knitting is difficult over long stretches
[20:47] <VictoriaLaughlin> It can be.  Depends on the pattern
[20:47] <Rovena> My grove is working our way through the Poetic Eddas and the German language
[20:47] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Very cool Rovena
[20:48] <BBersonsage> What about everyone else?
[20:49] <OakStrong> I've kind of gotten out of the habit of reading, unfortunately. But I'm in the middle of reading "Comparative Mythology" by Jaan Puhvel for the DP.
[20:49] <VictoriaLaughlin> Ah how is ot
[20:49] <VictoriaLaughlin> It
[20:49] <LisaWM> Right now I'm reading a book on chronotherapy, but I have an interlibrary loan about textile arts called Second Skin waiting for me. I just finished Deep Ancestors by Ceisiwr Serith for the nth time. (Also, hello.)
[20:50] <Rovena> That is a good one. I used it.
[20:50] <VictoriaLaughlin> Hi Lisa!
[20:50] <OakStrong> Well...it's not that easy. Which may explain why I've gotten out of the habit of reading. I think I'm stuck.
[20:50] [Owlhawk] hello Lisa
[20:50] <VictoriaLaughlin> Ah
[20:50] [Owlhawk] Puhvel is tough ging
[20:51] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lisa what is chronotherapy?
[20:52] <OakStrong> Yeah he is. I wasn't expecting the book to be as difficult as it is.
[20:52] <LisaWM> It's about using your natural sleep cycle and circadian rhythm to help alleviate problems. It's interesting so far.
[20:54] [Owlhawk] first I`ve heard of it Lisa.
[20:54] <OakStrong> Well, I've gotta go figure out what I'm going to eat. I'll talk to everyone later.
[20:54] <Rovena> Enjoy Oakstrong
[20:54] [Owlhawk] Oakstrong, try reading his book in short amounts. that is, a chapter or so at a time
[20:54] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Bye Oakstrong
[20:55] <BBersonsage> Later!
[20:55] <OakStrong> Thanks, Owl. I'll keep that in mind. ... Bye all!
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[20:55] <LisaWM> That's good advice, Jay. Have a good night, Oakstrong.
[20:56] <LisaWM> Yeah, I picked this book up on a whim as it passed by me at work... as I do with a lot of books. It never ends, haha.
[20:57] [Owlhawk] lol
[20:58] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[20:59] <VictoriaLaughlin> I'm starting c
[20:59] <BBersonsage> the programming language?
[20:59] <VictoriaLaughlin> Comparative Mythology once I get it next wrk
[21:00] <VictoriaLaughlin> Week
[21:00] <VictoriaLaughlin> Can't type :)
[21:00] <BBersonsage> :)
[21:00] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Good to know that it's a bit difficult to get through
[21:01] <BBersonsage> I'll be starting the In Search of the Indo-Europeans after I finish the oh-so-impressive Dracula
[21:02] [Owlhawk] I liked In search of the Indo Europeans
[21:02] [Owlhawk] many consider it equally difficult to get through
[21:02] <VictoriaLaughlin> Haven't read that one.  The first time around I read A History of Pagan Europe
[21:03] <LisaWM> I liked In Search of the Indo-Europeans too
[21:04] [Owlhawk] I did as well.
[21:05] <BBersonsage> The copy I have still has my wife's ninth grade highlighting in it
[21:05] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[21:05] <Rovena> Reading to do a book report is different from reading to learn
[21:05] <BBersonsage> no idea why she was reading it then, but who knows..
[21:05] <BBersonsage> that's definitely true
[21:06] <BBersonsage> do all of you know one another well?
[21:06] <VictoriaLaughlin> Kinda sorta
[21:07] <Rovena> We have never meet in the real world
[21:07] <Rovena> But we have known each other online for a while.
[21:07] [Owlhawk] Lisa and I meet many times, mostly at Three Rivers.
[21:07] [Owlhawk] have met...
[21:08] [Owlhawk] Blondie and I were honoured to be at her Ordination
[21:08] <BBersonsage> lol
[21:08] <BBersonsage> Who's Blondie?
[21:09] [Owlhawk] my blond wife
[21:09] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[21:09] <Rovena> Do you have a non-blonde wife?
[21:09] <Rovena> As well
[21:09] <BBersonsage> I do, in fact!
[21:10] <BBersonsage> touche
[21:10] [Owlhawk] she said only if I don`t value my testicles being attached to my body, may I have a second wife or girlfriend....
[21:10] <VictoriaLaughlin> Lol
[21:11] [Owlhawk] and since I go to bed long before she does most nights....
[21:11] <Rovena> Many times I have reminded my husband that I know where he sleeps
[21:12] <VictoriaLaughlin> I'm headed to bed.  Early morning for me tomorrow.  Nice chatting with you all!
[21:12] [Owlhawk] good night
[21:12] <LisaWM> Have a good night!
[21:12] <Rovena> Til next time
[21:12] <BBersonsage> Good night!
[21:12] <VictoriaLaughlin>  Good night!
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[21:13] <BBersonsage> What is Three Rivers?
[21:14] <LisaWM> The Canada East Regional Gathering, it's a small festival in Ontario
[21:15] <LisaWM> https://3riversfestival.wordpress.com/
[21:15] [Owlhawk] it`s all kinds of fun
[21:17] <BBersonsage> where in Ontario is it?
[21:17] <BBersonsage> face, meet palm
[21:17] <BBersonsage> there is a location tab
[21:17] <LisaWM> Eganville, about an hour and a half west of Ottawa
[21:19] <BBersonsage> aah that looks great but 8 hours away...
[21:20] <LisaWM> where are you located?
[21:20] <BBersonsage> Right outside of Flint, Michigan
[21:22] [Owlhawk] uhmmmm...bit more then 8 hours for you. closer to 10 or 12.
[21:22] <LisaWM> Ah, neat. So you're only 4.5 hours away from my Grove if you ever want to visit ;)
[21:23] <LisaWM> Are you part of a Grove?
[21:23] [Owlhawk] assuming, that is, that I`m figuring distances and travel time right.....
[21:23] [Owlhawk] her grove is lots of fun to visit
[21:24] <BBersonsage> Not as of yet, no
[21:25] <BBersonsage> We drove down to Ann Arbor (Cedar Lakes) for a coffee meetup and everyone had left...
[21:27] <Rovena> Bummer
[21:27] <BBersonsage> (We're not usually an hour and a half late, but my shift ended late and there was a terrifying thunderstorm)
[21:29] <BBersonsage> Are there cabins at the campground?
[21:30] <BBersonsage> but horse, cart, etc
[21:30] <LisaWM> at raven's knoll? cabins no, but some trailers
[21:30] <BBersonsage> tell me more about yourselves please!
[21:30] [Owlhawk] There is one cabin, up near the house.
[21:30] <LisaWM> Oh, yes, you
[21:30] <LisaWM> oops... you're right, Jay. I even stayed in it once. ha!
[21:31] [Owlhawk] lol. it`s easy to forget since it`s so far from the campground. Blondie really likes staying it it
[21:31] [Owlhawk] in it.....
[21:31] <Rovena> I need to run. Stay safe and enjoy life.
[21:31] <BBersonsage> the rental prices seem uncommonly low...are they for real?
[21:31] <BBersonsage> You too!
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[21:32] [Owlhawk] Contact the campground, Brendan, Auz or MA, and double check the prices with them.
[21:32] <LisaWM> We stayed in it the year Nathan was broken.
[21:33] [Owlhawk] it is pagan owned land, purposed for pagan activities, with pagan altars and places of worship intalled on the land in various places.
[21:33] <BBersonsage> I am very happy right now.
[21:33] [Owlhawk] yes you did. Good work on breaking Nathan!
[21:34] <BBersonsage> Who's Nathan?
[21:34] [Owlhawk] Lisa`s husband
[21:34] [Owlhawk] she keeps him out of trouble!
[21:34] <LisaWM> Hardly.
[21:35] [Owlhawk] lol
[21:36] <LisaWM> I think the closest festival to you is Midnight Flame?
[21:37] <BBersonsage> that is happy-makingly close indeed!
[21:39] <BBersonsage> Also, do you know many Hellenic druids?
[21:39] [Owlhawk] NO, NOT A ONE!!!!!!....HAIL ZEUS!!!!
[21:41] <BBersonsage> lol
[21:41] <BBersonsage> I'll take that as a yes
[21:41] <BBersonsage> Are you one?
[21:42] [Owlhawk] I have been so accused
[21:43] <BBersonsage> Mט 'ןכק,ד נקקמ פרשבאאןבןמע השרןקאןקד םכ יקךךקמןב פשעשמןדצ כםר ש גקבשגקת נוא I 'שד 'םמגקרןמע ןכ טםו ישהק שמט נקעןממקר נםםלד
[21:43] <BBersonsage> sorry
[21:43] <BBersonsage> I don't know why it does that
[21:44] <BBersonsage> what I was trying to say
[21:44] <BBersonsage> was that my wife has been practicing variations of Hellenic paganism for the last nine years, and I'm a lot newer to it
[21:45] [Owlhawk] ok. have you joined the hellenic email list?
[21:45] <BBersonsage> and was wondering if you have any book recommendations - maybe along the lines of kharis which was really good
[21:45] <BBersonsage> I have!
[21:45] [Owlhawk] That is a really good question to ask on the email list. 
[21:46] [Owlhawk] I've tended to read the classics
[21:46] <BBersonsage> I need to finally read the homeric hymns straight through
[21:46] [Owlhawk] when it comes to hellenic . I've not read many of the modern works, since there's so little I have access to. 
[21:46] <BBersonsage> but of the classics (outside of Homer), what would you recommend?
[21:46] [Owlhawk] Homeric hymns are awesome.
[21:47] <BBersonsage> yes they are.
[21:47] [Owlhawk] give me a minute
[21:48] [Owlhawk] this is the Whjte Owls Kin recommended reading list. https://www.adf.org/members/kins/white-owls/hellenic-adf-resources/reading-list.html
[21:48] <BBersonsage> Thank you!
[21:48] [Owlhawk] I don't have a whole lot to add to it to be honest. And the stuff I would add, I would have to go double check title and author
[21:48] [Owlhawk] first
[21:49] [Owlhawk] Any time
[21:49] <BBersonsage> Looks like I need to request membership in the While Owls Kin
[21:50] [Owlhawk] also check out https://www.adf.org/members/orders/DEO/index.html
[21:50] [Owlhawk] I'm a member. we don't bite.....unless  you REALLY want us to...........
[21:50] [Owlhawk] ;)
[21:51] <BBersonsage> So *that's* the mystery that was lost to the ages!
[21:52] [Owlhawk] lol
[21:52] <BBersonsage> Of the DEO, or of the White Owls?
[21:53] [Owlhawk] hehehehehe
[21:53] [Owlhawk] oh, you mean which am I am member of, sorry....
[21:54] <BBersonsage> lol
[21:54] [Owlhawk] I'm a member of both. I'm one of four in DEO who have finished the first circle.
[21:55] [Owlhawk] the completetions on the DEO website are incorrect. I'l have to remember to email about it tomorrow
[21:56] <BBersonsage> The path of the seeker level?
[21:57] [Owlhawk] Yes. and I believe one person has finished the next level. I think some info got lost when the website, ADF.org, was updated a short time ago
[21:58] <BBersonsage> This looks fascinating!
[21:59] <BBersonsage> thank you!
[22:00] <BBersonsage> Are Hellenic druids common?
[22:00] <BBersonsage> there aren't any groves with that focus nearby
[22:03] <LisaWM> ok folks, I've got to run. it's past my bedtime
[22:03] [Owlhawk] Shining Lakes Grove has one of the Hellenic Druid Priests as a member.
[22:03] [Owlhawk] good night Lisa.
[22:03] [Owlhawk] I
[22:03] <BBersonsage> Good night!
[22:04] <BBersonsage> Which one?
[22:04] [Owlhawk] Rob Henderson. 
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[22:04] [Owlhawk] The other Hellenic ADF Priest is in Ohio
[22:05] <BBersonsage> The guy who does the parody songs?
[22:05] <BBersonsage> He seems like a pretty cool dude
[22:06] [Owlhawk] Oh, I'm forgetting David out in...Arkansas...I think.....I may be missing one or two more....but they;re no where near you.
[22:06] [Owlhawk] uhmmm.....maybe?
[22:07] [Owlhawk] what parody songs?
[22:07] [Owlhawk]  he plays Lord of the Rings Online....
[22:07] <BBersonsage> http://www.shininglakes.org/robsongs.html
[22:08] <BBersonsage> Maybe I'll meet him if I can make it to the upcoming swedish meatball contest.  But I gotta run
[22:08] <BBersonsage> thank you so much, and I'll talk to you another time!
[22:08] [Owlhawk] happy to help. have a good night
[22:08] <BBersonsage> you too!
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