*** Opened channel log for #adf at 2016-06-14 8:19:44 PM [20:19] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-2bv46v.cable.rogers.com) has joined #adf [20:19] *** Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org [20:19] *** Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net on Mon Aug 3 8:55 AM [20:19] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ [20:19] Hello Owlhawk [20:20] [Owlhawk] sorry I'm late. fell asleep on the couch [20:20] No problem [20:20] hopefully more people will join us [20:20] I am sure the cats had a hand in it [20:20] [Owlhawk] lol [20:21] [Owlhawk] one of them joined me out on the deck while I was bbqing supper [20:22] Hello Carrion and Owlhawk! [20:22] hello [20:22] [Owlhawk] hello [20:23] I wonder how we get more people to participate in these chats. Rovena does a great job advertising them and I always enjoy them. I wonder why others don't take advantage of this method of communication? [20:23] Attendance varies greatly [20:23] We have some good night and a lot of average ones [20:25] Owlhawk does a great job with Facebook reminders [20:26] Early summer isn't a great time to convince Pagans to do indoor things, in general. [20:26] (Except me, because it got to hot for me to have fun otuside like six weeks ago. >8) [20:26] We are under a heat advisory so we should be inside [20:27] [Owlhawk] it only stopped snowing about 4 weeks ago Rob... [20:27] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-86eten.sub-70-194-15.myvzw.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:27] Like I said. >8) [20:27] It hasn't snowed here since April, though I'm told there was snow just north of here last month. [20:28] [Owlhawk] lol. We had snow in May [20:31] Haven't had snow in a couple of years [20:32] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-86eten.sub-70-194-15.myvzw.com) has joined #adf [20:32] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [20:32] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [20:32] May we could do a virtue a week or a high day a week [20:32] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:33] Might get some interest. [20:34] We can try it. [20:34] Just a thought [20:34] [Owlhawk] we occasionally get a run of newbies with accompaning quesitons [20:34] What does everyone have planned for the upcoming high day? [20:34] :) [20:35] Ritual ;) [20:35] Duh... [20:35] [Owlhawk] Wife wants more flowers now that the lilies are planted, so I'm thinking of planting some flowers for her [20:35] Grove ritual, moved to my mom's farm because of our problems at the old site. [20:35] [Owlhawk] she mentined tulips... [20:35] My main concern is that people will get lost trying to find it. >8) [20:35] [Owlhawk] Good location Rob. Gives you some control [20:35] My Grove is actually holding a Norse funeral ritual for Balder. [20:36] [Owlhawk] interesting.... [20:36] Trying to find out if we have a place to hold ours [20:36] We are burning a hand made mini ship and mini grave goods. Everyone really enjoys this ritual and we haven't done anything like it in about 4 years. [20:37] [Owlhawk] it sounds awesome [20:37] Cool [20:37] Nice! [20:39] I am a little nervous this year because a brand new Grove member that we don't know exceptionally well is building the ship....so here is hoping that it is done on time and at ritual. [20:39] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [20:39] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [20:39] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:40] [Owlhawk] well, trust has to start somewhere.... [20:43] that's what I thought so we are going with it. [20:44] I will head out, night all! [20:44] [Owlhawk] good night Rob [20:44] [Owlhawk] I wouldn't have thought of Baldr's funeral as a Missummer Ritual [20:44] *** RobHenderson (Mibbit@sorcery-gka4di.mi.comcast.net) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:44] Night ROb [20:44] [Owlhawk] midsmmmer... [20:44] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-86eten.sub-70-194-15.myvzw.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:45] [Owlhawk] gotta love my mistypes tonight [20:46] [Owlhawk] ! [20:47] We honor Balder at Midsummer as [20:47] "the hope of an age" and liken his rebirth with the rise of the sun [20:48] It actually works very well and the burning of the ship works well with sun worship also. It carries Baldr on his journey. [20:49] [Owlhawk] cool. [20:50] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-86eten.sub-70-194-15.myvzw.com) has joined #adf [20:50] [Owlhawk] Sorry you couldn't make it Three Rivers Carrion. you were missed [20:51] I am very sorry also. Who knew it would take over a month just to get a birth certificate so that I could get a passport. [20:51] And I was born and have always lived in the same state. [20:51] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [20:51] [Owlhawk] Yeah. There's always next year! [20:52] *** rovena (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [20:53] *** rovena is now known as Guest21742 [20:53] I will be getting my passport squared away this summer so next year will be possible. [20:53] [Owlhawk] And Drum, remembe ryour Brewing entry next year! [20:53] [Owlhawk] awesome [20:53] I will [20:54] [Owlhawk] speaking of brewing, the ginger beer is burping nicely [20:54] I LOVED Aus's "water" [20:54] OMGs [20:54] [Owlhawk] lol. he has awsome stuff. I didn't get a taste of thet one through [20:54] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@sorcery-oaru1r.ca.charter.com) has joined #adf [20:55] hi everyone [20:55] [Owlhawk] hi Trent [20:55] Hey Trent! [20:55] Hi Trent [20:56] how is everyone? [20:56] good...and you [20:56] Green :) [20:56] im doing all right [20:56] extremely broke [20:56] but i do get paid tomorrow [20:56] so that's something [20:57] paid is always good [20:57] Hello Trent [20:57] Yes! [20:57] [Owlhawk] My last pay for the summer will on June 30th. [20:57] [Owlhawk] be.... [20:57] you don't get paid during the summer? [20:57] [Owlhawk] school bus driver... [20:57] i see [20:57] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat9@sorcery-qtsjs8.ipv6.telus.net) has joined #adf [20:58] [Owlhawk] the break is Gods sent! [20:58] between the dog, the cat and hubby medicals bills this month, it is going to be a long stretch to the 30th [20:58] *** Guest21742 (rovena@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [20:59] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [20:59] Hello Raggiedmon [20:59] Burn a brown candle, Rovena [20:59] yeah...i'm going to have to get some car repairs done right after i get paid [20:59] Will do. [21:00] Ello [21:00] [Owlhawk] hello [21:01] *** Drum (Mibbit@sorcery-86eten.sub-70-194-15.myvzw.com) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:02] so anyway, i actually have a question for you guys this time [21:02] ask away [21:03] it's about tarot [21:03] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [21:03] Cool [21:03] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [21:03] basically most tarot decks tend to follow some kind of 4 direction, elemental symbolism...4 suits, etc. [21:04] which works well with Wicca and ceremonial magic-like rituals [21:04] ADF has 3 "elements" (sort of) and more of a vertical direction [21:04] so they're kinda clashing symbology systems, i guess [21:04] [Owlhawk] 3 elements? [21:05] sort of, ish, maybe not really elements [21:05] :-P [21:05] [Owlhawk] please elaborate [21:05] fire, well, tree [21:05] or maybe land, sea, sky [21:05] [Owlhawk] not elements in any sense [21:05] right [21:05] so not elements :-P [21:06] anyway [21:07] In the Irish hearth there is the four winds and they directly correspond to the 4 directions. There are several other IE cultures that also have directional references. [21:07] [Owlhawk] Tarot derives from the middle ages. [21:07] Trent...what are you trying to do with Tarot? [21:08] i guess what I'm asking is, if any of you use tarot during omen taking in an ADF rit, how it works within the ADF framework, or does it, and does it even have to [21:08] [Owlhawk] question for you Carrion, I think [21:08] I have seen ADF Druids use Tarot...quite frequently actually. [21:08] Never had a problem with it. [21:08] so have I [21:09] Have you looked at the Ninefold Oracle? [21:09] I am not an expert or even very knowledgeable at all about that method of divination...but ADF Druids that are well versed don't seem to have a problem with it. [21:10] It is really I think about personal preference. [21:10] it just occurs to me that one of the distinguishing things of ADF is that it deliberately doesn't do anything with the "western mystery tradition", which is where the 4 directional elements comes from [21:10] and where tarot gets it from [21:10] It is a nice card system based on ADF cosmology [21:10] i have heard of that [21:10] Owlhawk...did you still have a question? [21:11] [Owlhawk] no. [21:11] okay [21:12] don't hesitate to ask questions...and bring up stuff...I am really open to talking about most things. lol [21:12] We have been using for several high days now and it has worked real well for us [21:12] [Owlhawk] I will mention tha tdivination tools are just that...tools for the seer to use to tap into the msgs of the Gods. [21:12] right [21:12] agreed [21:12] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [21:12] i haven't done much with tarot yet, but i want to [21:13] [Owlhawk] What matters is the the seer can use the tool chosen [21:13] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [21:13] At our moon ritual on Saturday night I tried my hand at hydromancy for the first time...that was different [21:14] Trent, do you have a deck in mind? [21:14] I have worked with fire scrying and many other forms of non-symbol set divination for a long time, but never water. [21:15] [Owlhawk] that is a dfficult medium [21:15] i have a wildwood deck, that I bought a while ago [21:15] haven't done much with it [21:15] The key is to be comfortable with whatever deck you choose [21:16] yeah [21:16] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [21:16] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [21:17] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [21:18] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [21:18] But if you are conscerned about having a deck that is based on ADF principles then Ninefold Oracle would be a good one. [21:19] i might just try the wildwood deck for now :) [21:20] Then work with it until you are comfortable with it [21:20] okay :) [21:21] One thing a lot of peopl do is to select a card a day or a week and meditate on it [21:23] that's interesting [21:24] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has quit IRC [Quit: SorceryNet Kiwi WebChat] [21:25] *** Guest21742 (Guest21742@sorcery-e3sknr.direcpc.com) has joined #adf [21:26] *** Oritha (Mibbit@sorcery-32unhb.block0.gvtc.com) has joined #adf [21:26] [Owlhawk] hello [21:26] Hiya :) [21:26] I'm too late for the chat I guess [21:27] [Owlhawk] no [21:27] Never [21:28] Yay! Well I just joined the Order so I will listen in .. [21:28] Oh Order or Fellowship? [21:28] [Owlhawk] which order? [21:29] Fellowship it is then ;) [21:29] No no no Newver listen, ask questions [21:30] by the way I am a perfect speller but lousy typist [21:30] [Owlhawk] lol [21:30] hi oritha *** Closed channel log for #adf at 2016-06-14 9:30:24 PM