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[17:07] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ [19:04] *** ambermdoty (adoty@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [19:05] *** ambermdoty (adoty@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [19:44] *** rovena (webchat@6ca5ecbb.14055b34.72.168.imsk) has joined #adf [19:44] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:02] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@66fa1b5b.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:02] Sara! [20:02] Hello! [20:02] How are you? [20:02] I am alright. How are you? [20:03] Bit damp. TS Bill is on the way [20:03] :/ is it heading straight for you? Or the bands? [20:04] We are about to get tstorms here [20:04] We will get some of the rain but it is head for the head waters of the Red River so we are expecting flood levels to ride [20:05] Oh no [20:05] There's already been a lot of flooding right? [20:06] Definitiely [20:06] A course two subdividions were built on the river side of the levees [20:06] It's crazy how some places are desperate for water... [20:07] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:07] We do not tend to do intelligent things when it comes to building apparently [20:07] hi everyone [20:07] Hello Trent [20:07] It's like how they fill in lakes for construction around here and are surprised when the sink hole forms [20:07] Hi Trent [20:09] cali is apparently becoming one giant sinkhole [20:10] Drought will do that [20:10] Scary [20:10] it's because we keep pumping out groundwater, to grow almonds and do fracking and ship to other states :/ [20:10] i saw a pic, of a guy who has been tracking this for a while [20:11] entire landscapes have sunk by like 20 feet or more [20:11] it's ridiculous [20:11] whoa [20:11] and it's all fucking industry [20:12] :( food prices are already higher even [20:13] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@f15b163b.dhcp.nwtn.ct.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:13] Bonnie! [20:13] Welcome [20:14] where? [20:14] * BonnieCyr looks around. [20:14] california [20:14] also the ground is sinking [20:14] also hi :-P [20:14] *hugs* bonnie [20:15] [Owlhawk] hello [20:16] Hello [20:16] Hi! [20:17] [Owlhawk] all done playing with a pressure washer for the night! [20:17] fun [20:17] You could have waited for T S Bill to do it [20:17] [Owlhawk] and they pay me to play with it [20:17] We just watched Hocus Pocus, because I needed fun [20:17] hi hi hi. [20:18] I'm sort of idling - in grove chat, and trying to make the weather bow to my will. [20:19] heh, how bad is it out there? [20:22] [Owlhawk] good luck with the weather. [20:24] it's not *bad*, per se. But it is so humid that I can't paint - and we have 2 days until they list the house. [20:24] and the living room isn't finished being painted. [20:24] Boo [20:25] yikes [20:25] It was a feel like of 101 at 6 tonight, unreal how hot it is right now [20:25] wow [20:25] [Owlhawk] We didn't break 20C today. [20:25] I am so grateful for ac [20:29] [Owlhawk] Mines in the bedroom window but I've only used twice so far this year [20:29] *** whitb123 (Mibbit@c984093e.cpe.3466d5e.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:29] Ours run 24 / 7 [20:30] we don't have AC in my place, but then we don't really need it much [20:30] Hello [20:30] Well ours have been on for a while now [20:30] Hi [20:30] hi there [20:30] Yes [20:30] I worry about August if it's this hot already [20:31] Anyways, I am going to run. Have a great night all! [20:31] [Owlhawk] July and August will be interesting. September as well I think [20:31] [Owlhawk] Good night Sara [20:31] good night! [20:31] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@66fa1b5b.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:31] Night [20:33] *** whitb123 (Mibbit@c984093e.cpe.3466d5e.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:34] Anyone have plans for the High Day? [20:34] [Owlhawk] not yet. hopefully burning meat over a fire. [20:35] Burning meat is good [20:35] How is that new fire pit? [20:35] [Owlhawk] Wife is very happy with it. We'll play with again this weekend. [20:35] Cool [20:37] my wife and i are going to a wedding [20:38] Hope it will be fun [20:39] *** JasonM (AndChat569@6ca5f09f.6ca5ec9b.74.3.imsk) has joined #adf [20:39] [Owlhawk] hello [20:39] Hello Jason [20:39] Evening all. [20:40] How is everyone doing tonight. [20:40] [Owlhawk] good. yourself? [20:40] Never better [20:41] Doing OK. On the road. Found an Irish pub so the evening is looking up [20:41] hi Jason [20:41] Hay Trent [20:41] [Owlhawk] that always helps [20:42] They have live music too, so win. [20:43] Is there a topic for tonight. [20:43] Irish pubs with live music [20:44] [Owlhawk] nope [20:44] Lol. I'm convinced that you can't call a place a real city if they don't have an Irish pub. [20:44] Owlhawk likes world domination for 50 [20:45] True [20:45] I've been all over the world. Can almost always find one [20:46] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@f15b163b.dhcp.nwtn.ct.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:46] [Owlhawk] I deserve to rule the world! [20:46] You and how many others? [20:46] i think there's like several in San Luis Obispo [20:46] college town [20:46] :-P [20:47] Most big cities have more than one [20:50] So what is everyone's favorite pub in there home city? [20:51] [Owlhawk] I don't go to the bar. booze is cheaper at home [20:51] i don't drink :) [20:52] I drink at homw no DWIs that way [20:52] Ba, Irish pubs are for more than drinking. [20:53] But apparently I'm the lush of the group tonight. [20:54] [Owlhawk] We also don't have a proper pub in town either. [20:54] Thats a shame [20:54] [Owlhawk] I'm pretty sure I have more booze in the house then you Jason, so don't be gtoo sure]\ [20:55] Ooh that would be an interesting contest. Are we talking by weight or ABV? [20:55] Owlhawk brews [20:55] If you have that much you should open your own pub. [20:55] [Owlhawk] I'm sitting around 80 litres of beer [20:55] [Owlhawk] and 20 gallons of mead and wine [20:56] I know he does, I do too but not as much as him. [20:56] Ok so you win I volume. I may take you in ABV [20:56] [Owlhawk] lol. I have single malt [20:57] I currently have over 30 bottles over 100 proof just in whiskey [20:57] [Owlhawk] nice [20:57] Add rum and others and I'm well above that [20:57] [Owlhawk] wife tells me I 'm not allowed that much whiskey [20:58] I get it as gifts. Can't drink it fast enough. [20:58] Not that I don't try [20:58] [Owlhawk] lucky man [20:58] Most of my large family has no idea what else to buy me [20:59] [Owlhawk] Good job on your part I'd say [21:00] Wasn't planned I swear } -) [21:01] Ok topic switch any of you speak galic? [21:01] Should have been [21:01] Irish or SCottish? [21:02] Either [21:02] I am studying the Scottish [21:02] Where? [21:03] I can only find online classes for Irish. [21:04] Mostly myself but am a member of http://www.acgamerica.org/ They offer classes [21:04] nope [21:05] I'm working through the duolingo Irish lessons [21:05] *** Lesley (Mibbit@7af3cec3.hsd1.tx.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [21:05] Hello people! [21:06] How is everyone? [21:06] LESLEY [21:06] Ha lesley [21:06] How the weather? [21:06] wet, very wet [21:06] so ready for a dry day [21:07] We are expecting rain for the net 3 days [21:07] us too [21:07] and ts bill was a joke this time, barely a reason to stay home lol [21:07] but boss said it was best we did and i made the right call for the others [21:09] Never know til it is too late [21:10] right [21:10] brb [21:17] Anybody do anything exciting for solstice, or planning to? [21:17] Usual protogrove ritual adn potluck [21:17] Very cool [21:18] [Owlhawk] No, but we erected a Luch Shrine in a permant Nemeton at Raven's Knoll during Three Rivers [21:18] That is cool [21:19] Wow bet that was amazing Owl. [21:19] don't know yet, may go join in on a drum jam on the beach but depends on weather [21:20] Owl that sounds amazing! [21:20] [Owlhawk] It was a powerful Rite. Right up there with the Standing Stone we erected there a few years ago [21:20] I bet [21:21] [Owlhawk] There's pictures in one or two of the facebook groups [21:21] I really am wanting to join a ritual of some sort soon [21:21] also really want to make it to Summerland [21:21] I need ADF time lol [21:22] [Owlhawk] In two years We erect a Brigid Shrine there. [21:22] My local government always seams to set their Ritual when I'm either out of town or otherwise occupied [21:23] Grove. Stupid autocorrect [21:24] It does have strange ideas [21:24] [Owlhawk] Sean Harbaugh is infamous for his autocorrect [21:26] Death, taxes, and autocorrect. The great equalisers [21:27] Very true [21:28] lol true [21:38] Ok so I've had this thought for a while. What do folks think of the idea of Lugh nascadh as containing a mother's day theme? [21:38] Sigh lughnasadh [21:38] I can see it [21:39] interesting [21:40] hum [21:40] don't know [21:40] I can see it for some of the lore [21:41] Speaking strictly from the Irish root. That he held the festival in honor of his foster mother. [21:41] *Assuming that interpretation can be trusted [21:41] [Owlhawk] makes some sense for a ritual. [21:41] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:42] Adds an additional dynamic beyond the "guy good at everything" theme [21:42] Yes I know that's a gross oversimplification [21:44] I like it, as someone who is adopted, I relate more in honoring a foster or adopted parent anyways [21:45] The Wheel of the Year has to be flexible to meet group or indidivual need [21:45] I have step parents and my brother in law is adopted so I confess some connection to the concept [21:45] Midsummer our grove honors everyone's patrons [21:46] It does Rovena, I often get lost trying G to incorporate several points of view in Ritual with an eye to inclusiveness [21:47] i get thay [21:47] Thats interesting, do you have a ritual outline for that? [21:47] that [21:48] okay yall, getting off of here, talking to yall laters love yall and miss this connection, now I have a laptop, I will be on more often. [21:48] Standard COoR with the honoring of patrons in the workings [21:48] Night Lesley. [21:48] People do their own thing, One sings, another tells astory from the lore [21:49] Next time Lesley [21:49] *** Lesley (Mibbit@7af3cec3.hsd1.tx.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:49] Seams like that can get long. [21:49] I have the attention spans of children to consider [21:50] We are a small group usually 6 people [21:50] Most of my Ritual is friends and family. So small but... Kids! [21:51] We all adults .. at least in age [21:51] To young to have their own stories [21:52] *** Jojo (Mibbit@ba80f18a.stny.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [21:52] Hi Jojo [21:53] Hello Jojo [21:53] Good evening [21:53] *** Jojo is now known as Guest20403 [21:54] How're you guys tonight? [21:54] Fine How are you? [21:54] I have an idea for lughnasadh to provide bundles of long grain (local grasses) with tags to write prayers on that pare [21:55] Participants can burn [21:55] Great thanks [21:55] *** Alusa (Alusa@f19f68da.dsl.skt2ca.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [21:55] Hello Alusa [21:55] Hi Alusa [21:56] That sounds good Jason [21:57] hello rovena [21:57] hello JasonM [21:57] Doing well. Listening to America's Got Talent in the background. [21:58] Evening Alusa [21:58] i never could get too into those talent shows though susanboyle was amazing [21:59] *** Guest20403 is now known as [nick] [21:59] So we typically have a summer party, has anyone tried wrapping a party in Ritual. Making the revelry the "working" portion? [22:01] Haven't tried it but ritual in a public place doesn't lend itself to that [22:01] It could work [22:02] Making the building of community a sacred work? [22:02] That is a sacred working [22:03] <[nick]> Does Casting a circle on a Saturday, and then Opening the circle Sunday Morning, count? Working the ritual and events/workshops duri b/w the cast/open. [22:04] Well yes. But formalizing it. [22:04] *** [nick] is now known as [Jojo] [22:04] Aside from having to cast a wide Circle? [22:05] Not that I'm one for Circle casting, but how do you keep everyone inside? [22:06] <[Jojo]> Is this in the context of a public ritual? [22:06] Or do you cast it around a central point and let folks wander in and out? [22:07] Semi public. Family and friends, typically a revolving door of 50-80 people [22:07] ADF doesn't cast circle in public ritual [22:09] <[Jojo]> My bad. I was referring to a ritual that was done on a several acre, private piece of land. [22:11] I was speaking more practical then ADF specific [22:12] Though I need to start conforming to COoR more often if I'm ever going to complete my DP [22:13] For me, casting circle isn't the most practical thing. But that is just me. [22:14] I think it has its place. I've been k of to use them in personal Ritual, expecialy when I'm having focus issues. [22:15] *known to use them* [22:15] <[Jojo]> That was how I started my practice. I have the habit of using the example. [22:16] Different things work for different people. That is the way of the worlds. [22:16] It would be amazingly boring otherwise. [22:17] Very true [22:18] I have yet to run a public ADF Ritual [22:19] It isn't hard [22:19] But given that I'm not really associated with any gove, that's not a big shock. [22:19] COoR looks complicated but try writing out how to use a TV remote and see how long that is [22:20] Lol good point [22:20] <[Jojo]> I'm still rying to get the basics for my personal work in order. [22:20] Honestly, it has more to do do with need then complication. [22:20] I can do it off the top of my head any more [22:21] A good ritual can be simple [22:22] I just don't have a reason to run a "public" Ritual. [22:22] Hate to do this but I need to run. 5 AM comes too early. Last one out, please lock up. Key goes under the third rock . [22:23] Who would I invite, how would I announce it? And if I was well received where would everyone Park? [22:23] Night rovena [22:23] *** rovena (webchat@6ca5ecbb.14055b34.72.168.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Page closed] [22:23] <[Jojo]> Good dreaming [22:24] So where are you from, Jojo, Alusa? [22:24] im from california [22:25] Cool, where about? [22:26] <[Jojo]> I'm in NY. [22:27] I'm always interested in where folks are, I travel a lot. [22:28] Home is outside of Boston. My corporate office is in sand [22:28] <[Jojo]> Very nice. [22:28] San Diego [22:34] <[Jojo]> I'm from the Southern Tier region. A few miles outside of Binghamton. Think of the hometown of IBM or Rod Serling. [22:35] Lol. Interesting choices [22:36] <[Jojo]> How so? [22:37] IBM or rod sterling, interesting claims to fame. [22:38] I sent he the Twilight Zone guy? [22:40] <[Jojo]> Yessir. His house is a museum now, where a ton of IBM artifacts are kept to see. And the Bundy Museum, as its now referred to, is where the local drum circles are held. [22:41] I Assume it's not a Ted bundy museum? [22:42] <[Jojo]> Oh haha 😝 [22:42] That would be weird [22:43] <[Jojo]> A married with children joke. That show is just behind south park on the dirty chart. [22:44] That was al bundy [22:45] <[Jojo]> So who's Ted? [22:45] I'm not sure if an al bundy museum would be weird or awesome [22:45] Serial killer [22:46] That my have been the lightest charge [22:46] <[Jojo]> My history is bad. [22:47] It's cool, Ted is someone we can due with out. [22:48] Brings up an interesting question though, how as a modern pagan do you deal with those that would have been cast out of society? [22:58] <[Jojo]> Hm.... From my PoV, how serious, and whether the person can control their urges. Also, i try to look past a person's history, letting what they do now help me decide. [23:00] So historically banishment was an option for those deemed unfit for inclusion. That's not really an option and more, where would society banish to? [23:00] What, if any, would be an acceptable modern equivalent? [23:05] <[Jojo]> Depending on how many convicts, i would say drop them in an uninhabited, wooded are, and let them fend for themselves. Have some setup to be monitored, or not. [23:06] Isn't that how we ended up with Australia? Not that that's a bad thing. [23:07] <[Jojo]> Australia is the original prison camp isn't it. Guess its already been tried. [23:08] That said it worked out ok. But is there enough space anywhere to do it again? [23:10] <[Jojo]> Other than Antarctica, the various deserts across the planet, and heavily forested regions, theres not much left. Unless we ever vo the way of Seaquest DSV. [23:11] Murderers on the moon? [23:12] <[Jojo]> Moon based prison. Same idea as a seafloor station. Theybstep outside, and their chances of survival are nonexistent. [23:14] So theologically, how do you address those you set apart? Are they the same as the outsiders we [23:14] Or do they get some in between status? [23:17] <[Jojo]> Good question. But i have to decline to answer because i just realized im covered in rust, from crawling under my car thus evening. Apparently my man doesn't want rust chips in bed. Aka, i need a rinse, lol [23:18] Ha, well good evening to you then. [23:18] <[Jojo]> Back at you. I will catch you next Tuesday. [23:19] <[Jojo]> Good dreaming. 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