*** Opened channel log for #adf at 14/04/2015 7:05:46 PM [19:05] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@cf983e33.cpe.net.cable.f33844f1.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [19:05] *** Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org [19:05] *** Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net on Mon Apr 6 10:13 AM [19:05] =NickServ= Password accepted - you are now recognized. [19:05] *** Mode change [+o Owlhawk] on #adf by ChanServ *** Closed channel log for #adf at 14/04/2015 7:05:55 PM *** Opened channel log for #adf at 14/04/2015 7:06:07 PM [19:06] *** cccy_RegeaneWolfe (cccy_Regea@6ca5f040.14055a3c.210.23.imsk) has joined #adf [19:54] *** Rovena (Mibbit@6ca5ec7c.6ca5f07f.72.170.imsk) has joined #adf [19:54] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [19:58] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@66fa1b5b.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [19:58] hello! [19:59] [Owlhawk] hello [19:59] Hello Sara [20:01] how's everyone? [20:01] Wet we are about 9 inches up for the year on rain [20:01] [Owlhawk] Good. i put the summer tires on the car today, so i guess spring is finally here [20:01] cool! lots of rain [20:04] [Owlhawk] the good news is I'm emplooyed! [20:04] hi, all :) [20:05] Yeah [20:05] yay! [20:05] Hello [20:05] *** TomB (Mibbit@15bc4998.prvdri.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:05] Evening perps and peeps [20:05] Hello Tom [20:06] [Owlhawk] the bed news is I won't make it to Wellsprings....oddly enough these things are connected [20:06] well work is good, so it's understandable [20:07] [Owlhawk] lol and I have a B class license now [20:07] [Owlhawk] That's a bus license in ontario\ [20:07] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:07] :) [20:08] hi all [20:08] [Owlhawk] you think parallel parking a car is tough, try it with a school bus! [20:08] [Owlhawk] \Hi trent [20:08] I don't have the patience to be a bus driver [20:08] [Owlhawk] I fake it [20:08] Hello Trent [20:08] Hey Trent [20:09] how is everyone? [20:10] tired, but excited to be starting vacation [20:10] you? [20:10] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:11] good/needing a break but still good :) And like Sara said - "you?" [20:11] pretty good [20:11] got home from work [20:11] hanging out at home pretty much [20:11] livin' the dream [20:12] [Owlhawk] ? [20:12] anyone here going to Trillium? [20:12] nope [20:12] wrong coast for me basically [20:13] noppers [20:13] [Owlhawk] too far awayu [20:13] if i was still living in NJ I would very seriously consider it though [20:15] Last thing I did was Twilight Covening a couple years ago. [20:15] Oh wait no that's a lie. I went to Charter Oak's thingy last October [20:16] Mind like a steel sieve I tells ya [20:16] i might be going to Raven's Cry's beltane in a few weeks [20:17] or i might not [20:17] not sure yet :) [20:17] The last couple holiday rituals have been too early to get the kids moving. Lazy butts :) [20:17] [Owlhawk] Three Rivers Festival is the first weekend of June. I'll hopefully make that one [20:20] *** LukeLandry (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:20] cool [20:21] [Owlhawk] I'm waiting to here back about my time off request. [20:21] [Owlhawk] Hello luke [20:21] hi luke [20:22] Hello [20:22] Mr Luke [20:23] Hello Luke [20:28] May, may, we got quiet [20:28] Luke's fault [20:28] alright all, I'm sleep and have a ton to do tomorrow. everyone have a great night! [20:28] Plus I keep typing the same question over and over to re-word it ;) [20:28] sleepy [20:28] [Owlhawk] good night Sara [20:29] night sleepy [20:29] night all! [20:29] Good night Sara [20:29] [Owlhawk] Goodnight Daphne! [20:29] :) [20:29] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@66fa1b5b.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:29] [Owlhawk] So, what do folks want to talk about tonight? [20:30] offerings? [20:30] [Owlhawk] sure. what about them,? [20:30] What about offerings? [20:31] hard to think with kids fighting... grumble. Basically when I do a nightly incense offering is it okay if that incense stick is for multiple deities? [20:32] It's not really an offering I guess... more of a "Hey thinking about you" possibly followed by a good lookin' and a wink... wait no that last part is the mirror [20:32] [Owlhawk] I sure hope so, as I tend to do the same [20:32] I often light 3 stick one ofr each Kndred [20:32] [Owlhawk] I often use one incense stick for offerings since I have limited funds and incense burners [20:32] [Owlhawk] I also use Olive oil as an offering a lot [20:33] what do you do with the oil after? [20:33] [Owlhawk] If the cats don't drink it, I pour it into the garden when the snow goes away. [20:33] I could do one stick per kindred... I think I need to try and get to know the local land spirits a bit more [20:34] ew they drink it? crazy cats [20:34] [Owlhawk] Thus far the cats have enjoyed their treat. I view it as the nature spirits saying thank you [20:34] [Owlhawk] all cats are crazy. [20:34] truth [20:34] [Owlhawk] it's good for their coats [20:34] mine's too old. Old Mister Merlin doesn't get around much anymore. [20:35] *** Elswyth (Mibbit@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:35] I've always thought of pets as between us and the land spirits [20:36] my old dog found my meditation spot in the woods for me [20:36] [Owlhawk] or as land spirits [20:36] Good Evening :-) [20:36] Hello Elswyth [20:36] evenin' [20:38] I think I could improvise something to hold three incense sticks hmmm.... gonna need a bigger altar [20:38] [Owlhawk] it depends on the type of incense you use. [20:39] [Owlhawk] stick isn't the only type available [20:39] I'm on these cool Japanese ones someone gave me to try out [20:39] [Owlhawk] i'm all out of those [20:39] I've never had good luck with cones [20:40] [Owlhawk] there's also powder that you use with charcol [20:40] brb [20:40] I have a bunch of disks from when I kinda sorta practiced Wicca(ish), that's a good idea [20:40] charcoal disks [20:41] *** Elswyth (Mibbit@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:43] *** William (Mibbit@64bb7c7d.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:43] [Owlhawk] hello [20:44] oh here's another one... the nine sacred woods. Some I can find but how do you buy wood you can't find in the woods? [20:44] [Owlhawk] that's a celtic thing. So I haven't given it much thought [20:45] [Owlhawk] not even sure what they are [20:46] embarrassed because I have to look them up. A fine Celtic hearth culture person I am... [20:47] [Owlhawk] lol...Hellenic here [20:47] *** Elswyth (Mibbit@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:47] Tom, you can't know everything [20:47] [Owlhawk] welcome back [20:47] well look at that you can't search with the Windows kindle reader. [20:47] *** Elswyth (Mibbit@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:48] hah, I should know what my question is :) [20:48] oak's easy, ash/birch easy peasy lemon squeezy. [20:49] *** AndroUser (androirc@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:49] Hello? [20:50] hello AndroUser :D [20:50] [Owlhawk] hello [20:50] Yew, where the heck do you get Yew. Crazyness :) [20:50] Lol, it's actually Elswyth. I'm trying to make this app work [20:50] [Owlhawk] lol [20:51] Yew is easy to find, at least in shrub form. [20:51] I've tried a couple apps, let me know if you have luck with that one [20:51] says yew [20:51] *rimshot* [20:51] Will do [20:51] *** ambermdoty (Mibbit@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:52] Lol [20:52] [Owlhawk] Rowan is also Mountain Ash if that helps [20:52] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:53] I'm looking at pictures of Yew and one has the berries that make me think I've actually seen it locally. [20:53] back [20:53] It's pretty widespread, even though it's mostly poisonous [20:53] don't think I've seen Mountain Ash [20:54] welcome back [20:54] You will have. [20:54] [Owlhawk] I have one in the back yard that will soon come down [20:54] It's distinctive when in flower or berry [20:54] Good evening. [20:54] [Owlhawk] hello [20:55] evening [20:55] Hello Amber [20:57] hmmm apparently there's mountain ash in New Hampshire/Northern Massachusetts [20:57] hi amber [21:04] If you're up in NH, birch is what you might struggle with [21:05] I'm in Mass, plenty of birch. But I go camping/backpacking in NH a lot [21:09] Ah good. My husband's from NH. It's great for the great outdoors up there [21:09] [Owlhawk] So, at what points should we make offerings? [21:10] I try to do something small nightly when I can [21:12] so in the greek hearth culture would you make your offerings in a hole in the ground? Not counting the cat drinking the oil [21:12] I pray twice a day. Offerings every week to the dead. [21:12] [Owlhawk] only offerings to the dead and the Chtonic deities. Fire was the usual method [21:12] What kind of oil do you usually offer? [21:13] Greek is my second favorite hearth culture. [21:13] olive, no? [21:13] [Owlhawk] yes, Olive Oil. I tend to buy multiple bottles so the wife's kitchen and my altar have sufficient amounts [21:14] lol [21:14] sorry that was Charlie lol'ing (one of my 10 year olds) [21:14] Cool, so nothing too exotic [21:16] [Owlhawk] And Hestia is always offered to first and last [21:17] [Owlhawk] no, nothing too exotic. offerings doen't have to be odd and unusual. they have to be what you can give first and foremost [21:19] Especially with the Greeks! According to the myths, the gods were given the bones and fats from meat, while the actual edible part was kept by the people. [21:19] [Owlhawk] the work of Prometheus [21:19] I normally offer milk and oatmeal. Or tea. I just never offered oil before so I was wondering [21:19] [Owlhawk] Olive oil is traditional. [21:19] [Owlhawk] As is incense and many other things. [21:20] I'm from more of a Norse/Celtic hearth culture, we don't usually do oil, butter though... [21:20] I usually do stout as an offering and I'm not sure if incense counts as an offering because I do it to let them know I'm thinking about them [21:21] brb, tossing chuckle heads in bed [21:21] I think if you made the incense it can be an offering [21:21] [Owlhawk] I use incense as an offering. it's all in the intent [21:21] [Owlhawk] and the prayers accompanying [21:23] Do poems count as prayers? [21:23] They can. They can also count as offerings in some cases. [21:23] That's my intent so I'm guessing yes [21:23] cool beans [21:23] I think I need to get better at writing before I'd call them offerings lol [21:24] [Owlhawk] no, you need to accept that you are learning and that your future offerings and prayers will be that little bit better each time [21:25] true [21:27] I usually borrow from Homer if I'm thinking Greek [21:27] [Owlhawk] not a bad place to start [21:29] Hard to beat: Hestia, in the high dwellings of all, both deathless gods and men who walk on earth, you have gained an everlasting abode and highest honour: glorious is your portion and your right. For without you mortals hold no banquet,--where one does not duly pour sweet wine in offering to Hestia both first and last . . . Hestia, you who tend the holy hous [21:29] That's a great resource. I tend to use http://www.theoi.com/ for inspiration a lot of the time. [21:29] copy/pasted from Theoi.com [21:29] Look at that. :) [21:29] :) [21:29] [Owlhawk] the Orphic and Homeric Hymns are good as well [21:30] awesome web site for research/inspiration when it comes to Greek [21:30] [Owlhawk] it's top notch. [21:30] In my dreams there's a celtic version [21:30] [Owlhawk] lol [21:32] not possible but it'd be cool. I've tried mapping out relations/who's who and it ends up a big blurry mess when you start adding other sources. [21:32] [Owlhawk] alright, I'm off to bed. Good night. last one out, shut the door [21:32] 'night [21:32] night :) [21:37] *** hekatesgal (Mibbit@6ca5ed75.6ca5f041.71.94.imsk) has joined #adf [21:37] Night. [21:39] *** hekatesgal (Mibbit@6ca5ed75.6ca5f041.71.94.imsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [21:39] g'night peeps. [21:40] *** TomB (Mibbit@15bc4998.prvdri.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:41] Last one out, please lock up. [21:41] *** Rovena (Mibbit@6ca5ec7c.6ca5f07f.72.170.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:41] *** AndroUser (androirc@92a0c19e.washdc.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] [21:45] gotta go myself [21:46] good night :) [21:46] *** LukeLandry (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:46] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:50] *** William (Mibbit@64bb7c7d.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:51] *** ambermdoty (Mibbit@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:25] *** Alusa (Alusa@42318779.dsl.skt2ca.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [01:06] *** Server connection lost [01:06] *** Server connection lost [06:06] *** Server connection lost [06:07] *** Server connection lost [06:07] *** Server connection lost [06:08] =NickServ= This nickname is registered and protected. 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