*** Opened channel log for #adf at 27/01/2015 7:27:54 PM [19:40] *** Rovena (Mibbit@6ca5f0c2.6ca5f082.72.170.imsk) has joined #adf [19:40] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [19:43] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@93581b89.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [19:43] hello! [19:43] [Owlhawk] hi [19:43] how's everyone? [19:44] Hello Sara [19:44] Got to 80 today [19:44] wow! it was actually chilly in our area [19:45] well, nice really [19:45] [Owlhawk] highest I saw was -8 [19:46] That is why we live in Louisiana that and the food [19:47] yummy food [19:47] We are starting to get microbreweries as well [19:48] [Owlhawk] lol [19:53] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [19:53] hi Bonnie! [19:53] Ohaiii :) [19:53] Hello Bonnie [19:53] so much sner! [19:53] Hey all! [19:53] [Owlhawk] hello [19:54] hi! [19:55] how's the writing Bonnie? [19:56] [Owlhawk] did you get your writing done? [19:56] [Owlhawk] :D [19:58] :\ [19:58] I got an essay done. [19:58] does that count? [19:58] yay!!! [19:59] an essay is progress! [20:00] [Owlhawk] yes it does. well done [20:00] *** Victoria-Leona (Victoria@e2bb400b.hfc.f2428a0b.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:00] I'm still meh, but. [20:00] dealing with it. [20:00] evening all [20:00] one step closer Bonnie [20:00] Sorry you're meh Bonnie [20:01] *** RobHenderson (Mibbit@5a79652d.hsd1.mi.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:01] Hello Victoria [20:01] lol it's okay V, it happsn. [20:01] I can't wait to see you! [20:01] [Owlhawk] that happens when it won't stop snowing [20:01] [Owlhawk] at least it didn't reach the roof top [20:03] PCon is so close! [20:03] I wish I was going [20:03] see … something worries me when we're talking about snow REACHING the roof .. not on the roof [20:03] *** ErinP (Mibbit@36921445.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:03] Wow, full house tonight [20:03] I wish you were going too Sara. [20:04] Hi Erin! [20:04] Hello Erin [20:04] evening everyone [20:04] [Owlhawk] We lost houses in my area last year.... [20:04] V I know! <3 so excited. [20:04] Hi hi [20:04] [Owlhawk] We had to dig them out [20:04] oh Owl .. that's tough [20:04] *** Rovena (Mibbit@6ca5f0c2.6ca5f082.72.170.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:04] I had one winter in NY when I helped dig cars out .. that was enough! [20:04] oh yikes :\ [20:04] we were fortunate to have most of the snow blow off the roof. [20:04] even though we're 3 ft in the yard. [20:05] *** Rovena (Mibbit@6ca5f0c2.6ca5f082.72.170.imsk) has joined #adf [20:05] [Owlhawk] that does help Bonnie. Saves shoveling it off. [20:05] it wasn't 90 out today! I'm happy about that [20:05] I can't see my rhododendron and that's insane. [20:05] *** TomB (Mibbit@c49e0fd3.prvdri.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:05] LOL Sara! [20:05] [Owlhawk] Sara, I don't think we like you right now....for the same reason my dad lost the bottle of scotch he left in his condo [20:05] Evening peeps [20:05] I was thrilled that I had to wear a scarf today! [20:05] [Owlhawk] hello [20:05] hi Tom [20:06] well I can't help I live in FL... [20:06] *** Rovena is now known as Guest50667 [20:06] Hi Tom. [20:06] well I sorta can, but my husband won't move...because of snow [20:06] [Owlhawk] lol [20:06] [Owlhawk] and you will? [20:06] yeah Sara, it was in the 80's when I was there over the New Year Break [20:06] [Owlhawk] Miss never seen snow?? [20:06] You've never seen snow? [20:06] it was SO hot early this month [20:06] I've seen snow [20:07] The snow was AWESOME. Finally got to use my new snowshoes today. 3 awesome feet [20:07] I have family in MA, we would go visit to see snow [20:07] Ahh [20:07] I've never lived anywhere that it snows [20:07] *** Guest50667 is now known as Rovena [20:07] *** Cait_Sidhe (Mibbit@6ca5ed3c.6ca5ed5b.67.197.imsk) has joined #adf [20:07] well .. not real snow … we rarely get flurries here, but they don't stick [20:07] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #adf by ChanServ [20:07] Hi Tom! [20:07] I haven't either....we've had flurries too, but ya know [20:08] gods I'm tired!! I had to double check that I actually typed out flurries [20:08] I livede in Virginia when I was 2, but I don't remember that. otherwise, all cold weather living spaces for me. [20:08] great, now I have a wet dog on my lap. She was out rolling in the snow [20:08] lol [20:08] I rarely see furries here, but then I don't go to those gatherings. >8) [20:08] my hubby thinks that 70 is freezing, so why we stay put [20:08] lol Rob! [20:09] lol [20:09] *** Cait_Sidhe is now known as CaitD [20:09] living around Orlando(and formerly working at Disney), I can't say I haven't [20:09] seen...I don't go out much anymore [20:09] Modern day fandom retellings of Greek theater: After killing his mother, Orestes is pursued relentlessly by three furries. [20:10] lol [20:10] lol [20:10] lol [20:10] For some reason that made me think of Thundercats... [20:10] ROFL @Tom [20:10] so people, if you have never heard "we are the weiner dogs" song, you are missing out! ;) [20:10] Wow. Haven't used IRC in ages. [20:10] Hi caitd [20:11] thank you Curious George [20:11] I haven't used irc since 95 [20:11] except for these discussions [20:12] same here Erin [20:12] It's probably been since then for me too. Since I moved south. [20:13] Lol 20 years ago [20:13] I'm so ooo old! [20:13] *** CarrionMann (Mibbit@4c4ab62b.dynamic.9dcf6d32.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:13] *** rmagill (rmagill@8dd1f883.c3-0.eas-ubr1.atw-eas.pa.cable.6ca6e6e8.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Bye] [20:13] Yeah, right. [20:14] hee hee .. let's not talk about age huh? [20:14] I was 21 in 95 [20:14] Me too. [20:14] Good Evening Everyone, I thought I would stop by... [20:14] Hi Carrion! [20:14] Hi! [20:14] HI Carrion [20:14] Evening! [20:14] Hey hey [20:14] Hi Guys [20:14] hello [20:14] Hi Carrion [20:14] Hello Carrion [20:15] I was 21 in the 70s [20:15] ooopa [20:15] oops [20:15] *** Deryk (Mibbit@a6c68a79.dyn.2cba2d11.net.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:15] sorry lol [20:15] [Owlhawk] hello [20:15] Are we really talking about age(: I have been 21 a couple times:) [20:15] aren't you, like, 30? [20:16] Hi owlhawk. [20:16] * BonnieCyr looks at the name list [20:16] I think I beat you all in age for the youngest, though. ;) [20:16] probably [20:16] Mentally or physically? [20:16] :) [20:16] Oh to have that opportunity again. [20:17] *** Deryk (Mibbit@a6c68a79.dyn.2cba2d11.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:17] afk [20:17] Waiting for my third childhood [20:17] LOL .. why do we need to grow up? [20:17] [Owlhawk] I don't think that's even a competition Bonnie [20:18] I feel older these days, tired all the time and ready for bed at 7 [20:18] Hi [20:18] I just had to get my first pair of glasses ... it was a weird feeling. [20:18] I've been in glasses since I was 5. [20:19] [Owlhawk] since 10 here [20:19] I don't remember when I didn't have glasses - not counting the time I was wearing contacts [20:19] well now I feel super lucky I made it to 29! [20:20] My husband is looking for his old military buddies. They owe his a lot of money for surviving so long [20:21] I got mine when I was 18. Went for the eye exam for the drivers test. What would you know, I needed glasses. Explained why I was always sitting at the front on the class taking notes. [20:21] [Owlhawk] I occasionally have trouble finding the floor with out mine [20:22] so I have a silly question [20:22] I can't recognize people when I don't have mine on. Old squinty, that's me [20:22] My hubby gets amused when I put mine down somewhere that I didn't expect and then can't find it again [20:22] [Owlhawk] Yes, the Leafs will win the cup [20:22] Ask it [20:22] I can't remember whether this is a solitary chat or a dedicant chat or a random ADFer chat [20:22] [Owlhawk] all of the above [20:22] Yes [20:22] ooh, awesome, okay [20:22] back [20:22] [Owlhawk] we believe in multi tasking around here [20:22] wv [20:22] wb [20:23] hee hee [20:23] afk [20:23] gain one, lose one [20:23] lol [20:23] Erin - I got glasses at age 15 for the same reason. [20:23] you were driving at 15? [20:23] Learner's permit, sure. [20:24] [Owlhawk] I had friends on farms driving before that even [20:24] we had to be 16 to get the learners permit here. But I was a very irresponsible teen, so I had to wait until I was 18 [20:25] Michigan culture encourages teens to learn driving early. [20:25] In Missouri any age con drive a tractor on the road between fields [20:25] ahh [20:26] I learned at 15 too, needed to go work [20:26] back [20:27] Wb [20:27] ty :) [20:27] You can her in rural PA also. My daughters high school has drive your tractor to school day:) [20:27] wow [20:27] [Owlhawk] that's fantastic. snowmobiles would be fun as well. we had parking areas for them in high school [20:27] Cool [20:27] lol wow Carrion [20:27] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [20:28] seems a little crazy :) but fun I'm sure for the kids [20:28] full house tonight [20:28] hey Trent! [20:28] hi everyone [20:28] Hello Trent [20:29] Hi Trent [20:29] Hi Trent [20:30] how is everyone? [20:30] Snowtastic [20:30] doing good [20:31] good [20:31] trying to figure out how I'm going to get everything I want to get done before p*Con done ... [20:31] V I gave up trying ;D [20:31] our house reno will be done..and then I will have to leave and won't see it for a week, lol [20:31] is pcon pantheacon? [20:32] yes [20:32] sorry … shorten stuff [20:32] heh [20:32] Oh Bonnie! What timing! [20:32] i am probably going to make it to pantheacon [20:32] I know right? We're behind because of the snow and other delays. [20:32] no worries, I'm just new :D [20:32] Yay, Trent! [20:32] i may not make it to ALL of pantheacon though [20:32] yay Trent .. some is good! [20:32] Where are you from, Jenner? (did I miss that?) [20:33] Trent you should come visit us in the Hospitality Suite! [20:33] [Owlhawk] That's the one in Detroit, correct? [20:33] my original plan was to come up friday, it might not happen until saturday morning though [20:33] northwest oregon, I live in the first rural town west of Portland [20:33] What is Pantheacon? I'm not very well versed in gatherings. [20:33] That's where Phaedra wants to move to... [20:34] Pantheacon is in San Jose, CA [20:34] it's a huge weekend convention of varied faiths [20:34] What v where …. [20:34] sorry [20:34] wiccan, heathen, pagan, reconstructionist, etc. [20:34] [Owlhawk] ah, yeah I likely won't make that one anytime soon [20:34] I would love to go, but it is not in the plan for this year. [20:34] Ah. Sounds a bit big for me. I don't handle gatherings well. [20:34] CaitD, we're on the same page there. :) [20:35] Cait that'll be my query too. But I think I'll be ok. [20:35] I'm too close not to go …. I wish I could get to some of the Central & East coast gatherings though [20:35] Tried to go to the OBOD one in PA a couple years ago. Had a panic attack. [20:35] ohh not good Cait [20:35] that sucks [20:35] I haven't been on the west coast for a while so it'll be a good thing to get to. Though I will have to miss ConVocation [20:35] :\ aww Cait. [20:36] I'd express sadness but I'm honestly not sure *I'm* going to ConVocation yet. [20:36] what's convocation? [20:36] Convocation is the same weekend as Stitches (a big yarn-crafting conference) so no go for me =/ [20:37] A smaller version of Pantheacon held in the Detroit area. [20:37] I would rather go to Stitches I think. >.> [20:37] Stitches rocks (but also very crowded) [20:37] got it [20:37] Which one are you going to? [20:38] On the one hand, it looks bad if the head of the local ADF grove doesn't go to ConVo, especially when the Lansing Grove does. OTOH, I can't flippin' afford it. [20:38] I think I could do a Stitches easier. I know more knitters than I do pagans. [20:38] Stitches West .. it's the weekend after Pantheacon, also in San Jose [20:38] Rob .. affording is more important IMO [20:38] we're not in this to pauper ourselves [20:39] Most of the pagans I know are knitters. I've been told it's meditative. [20:39] PCon is triple the size of ConVo and from what i can tell is more recon-friendly, so I can't imagine why anyone on the west coast would choose ConVo. >8) [20:39] (I think I made up taht word) [20:39] I spin, crochet, knit and weave … [20:39] and it works Tom … makes sense [20:39] :) [20:39] i crochet. it's fun and relaxing [20:40] I think distance is also the thing. If ConVo wasn't RIGHT after Pcon I might have been able to swing it. [20:40] yeah .. that does make it tight [20:40] but I work from a home office so it's super hard to do [20:40] I've never done but I feel like I'd be so proud of myself if I made my own pair of socks. [20:41] and really the only reason for Pcon for me is a great early bird deal on flights through southwest. [20:41] i doubt i could ever afford to fly to a conference or festival [20:41] that's the only real reason. [20:41] so west coast stuff for me [20:41] i miss outdoor festivals, i used to live in NJ [20:41] considering we just demolished and rebuilt our upstairs I doubt I will be going again for a LONG time lol [20:41] I want to get out to more festivals (out of FL) [20:41] you're fairly well located to drive to West Coast stuff [20:41] Trent .. you should come to Eight Winds [20:41] i'm hoping to go to that [20:41] I spin, crochet, and knit. Don't have a loom anymore. [20:42] Cool Cait! [20:42] @Bonnie .. that's a lot of capital [20:42] G'night guys [20:42] [Owlhawk] Bonnie, that's why I'm taking the multi-yar approach to renovations at our house. [20:42] [Owlhawk] good night Erin [20:42] 'Night Erin [20:42] night Erin [20:42] *** ErinP (Mibbit@36921445.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:43] Jay, we are too. [20:43] this just *had* to be done. [20:43] we had no living space at all, lol. [20:43] [Owlhawk] ouch [20:43] (really, we had zero upstairs) [20:43] the floor had asbestos. [20:43] :\ [20:44] oh ugh [20:44] [Owlhawk] double ouch [20:44] ew yuck. That's hard to get rid of [20:44] Sorry to have to go, but I've got to run! [20:44] Have a great chat! and see you all later. [20:44] bye victoria! [20:44] [Owlhawk] bye [20:44] Night [20:44] bye Victoria [20:45] Take care [20:45] *** Victoria-Leona (Victoria@e2bb400b.hfc.f2428a0b.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Leaving.] [20:45] I have never lived in a finished house [20:46] we are looking for a house now, hoping we don't have to do too much work to start [20:46] just don't have the time or cash flow for a big project [20:46] has anybody here put up an outdoor shrine space at their home? [20:47] We have [20:47] Currently in an apartment, but I've done it before. [20:47] I made a small one in my veggie garden. A tiny set of standing stones and a place to leave offerings [20:47] I would like to this year. This is my first year as an ADF member. [20:48] [Owlhawk] not at my home, but I aided in the erection of a Standing Stone at Raven's Knoll. [20:48] We pulled the gigantic hydrngea out of the back flowerbed, so I might try to do something there, though the bamboo might interfere. [20:49] Bamboo can be very invasive [20:49] that all sounds really cool. this is my first year actually doing the DP and I realized I have a fire pit and a tree and a garden. not sure about water yet. [20:49] Some started coming into the house last year. And there's nothing we can do about it. [20:49] It will come with time [20:50] Rovena: true, I keep reminding myself to slow down, it's a whole year to experience after all :D [20:50] It is a whole life [20:50] heh, i need an outdoor before i can put up an outdoor shrine [20:51] I just started the DP myself. [20:51] it is our dream to own a house one day [20:51] [Owlhawk] The DP is the first step on a life journey. [20:52] I'll accept "next step" at least, true [20:52] For me it's a next step as well. I've followed a non-christian path for over half my life. [20:52] [Owlhawk] same thing really, [20:54] [Owlhawk] the important thing is recognizing that it is part of a journey, not a destination itself [20:54] Thinking of next steps, I was going to look into doing work with inmates and stuff like that. Does ADF have any sort of program like that? It really depends on if work considers it a conflict or not. [20:55] The Clergy Council has a prison ministry program, sure. [20:55] Oh cool. [20:56] https://www.adf.org/articles/in-the-news/paganfest-in-prison.html [20:56] awesome. I'll have to start hauling butt on my dedicant work so I can into the clergy program before I croak from old age [20:57] I haven't even considered what I'll do beyond DP. [20:59] *** Drum (Mibbit@14055acf.6ca5ecde.73.161.imsk) has joined #adf [20:59] Nothing wrong with that. Concentrate on the DP and see where it will lead [20:59] hi Drum [20:59] *** Mode change [+o Drum] on #adf by ChanServ [20:59] Hello! [20:59] Doing the DP can be its own reward. [20:59] Hi Drum [20:59] [Owlhawk] hey there! [20:59] Hello Drum [21:00] Hello, Hello! [21:00] I'd like to do end of life stuff too after working in a nursing home when I was in HS [21:00] Nice to see everyone :) [21:00] Hi Drum [21:00] :) [21:00] That is a special calling [21:01] Just seems right, maybe from losing a lot of people I liked (I was a janitor, nothing fancy) [21:01] It bugged me that they seemed alone at that time [21:02] A janitor can listen and smile and sometimes that is what needed most [21:02] Exactly [21:02] I had thought Bardic, but I'm not much for performance, and it seems that Bardic tends towards that as a focus. [21:02] afk, gotta chuck the kids in bed [21:03] The Bards do consider performance important, not just writing. [21:03] yes [21:03] night Tom [21:04] Owlhawk, I have a recipe to send you for your review and commentary [21:04] My social anxiety gets the better of me too much to perform. [21:04] [Owlhawk] *perks up* OH??? [21:04] Yes, Ginger wine [21:04] [Owlhawk] Hmmmm.....tasty. I did Ginger beer last year. [21:05] I will send it later [21:05] [Owlhawk] ok [21:05] Since the Preceptor is here, I would like to thank her for shoring up the mentor process, thank you [21:06] You are most welcome! [21:06] [Owlhawk] yes, congratulations on becoming Preceptor Carrion. [21:06] In adedition, I know that I am not always on time for these, but I truly, truly appreciate all of you being here every Tuesday [21:06] You folks are great! [21:07] Thank you Owlhawk [21:07] If anyone has the chance, try to get to Texas Imbolc and/or Three Rivers so you can meet Rovena and Owlhawk in person; it is a treat to see them both [21:08] I'm glad to learn of these chats. Tuesday nights I'm off work, so can make them. [21:08] There are a lot of great people at the Retreat [21:08] :) [21:08] [Owlhawk] fantastic [21:08] Texas I might be able to do someday. I have a dear friend in the Dallas area. [21:09] Great! [21:09] Texas Imbolc is almost as remote as Three Rivers [21:09] [Owlhawk] lol [21:09] Texas doesn't seem so far [21:09] [Owlhawk] Three Rivers isn't that bad! it's only an hour and half north of Ottawa! [21:09] The journey is everything :) [21:09] I would love to go to that Imbolc one day. It always sound like so much. [21:09] fun...oops! [21:10] [Owlhawk] yes it does. And Imbolc with out snow sounds.....intriguing [21:10] Carrion, it is, but ThreeRivers is amazing and not that far from you [21:10] North end of Hudson Bay [21:10] just kidding [21:10] [Owlhawk] lol [21:10] [Owlhawk] it does seem taht way some times [21:10] we need more festivals in the south during the winter [21:10] [Owlhawk] it's about 6 or 7 hours drive for me [21:11] [Owlhawk] trying to lure us all down there Sara? [21:12] [Owlhawk] that was the fastest kick and reconnect I've ever had [21:12] Welcome back! [21:12] Today it will be 70 here but 50 on Saturday [21:12] Green Imbolc is good, Rob :) [21:13] [Owlhawk] Well, the wife is making those 'we need to go visit your parents in Florida next year' noises.... [21:13] [Owlhawk] Thank you! [21:15] [Owlhawk] I'm happy to get above -10C [21:15] [Owlhawk] and another kick and reconnect. Odd... [21:16] okay, time for me to get going [21:16] see you all next time :) [21:17] Are you going to PCon, Trent? [21:17] Night Trent [21:17] ugh, looking at the weather for the weekend it looks like it will be 80 on Sunday, when we are doing our Imbolc ritual [21:17] 80, *sigh* [21:17] [Owlhawk1] I vaguely remember that temp...... [21:17] If I add up all of last week, I might get 80 [21:17] It's depressing really, because I haven't had time to forget that temp this year [21:18] [Owlhawk1] if you're lucky you'll get that high [21:19] Our temps fluctuate so much here, it's sometimes hard to feel the seasonal changes because sometimes it's like we have 6 or 8 seasons. [21:19] We have two seasons: hot & dry or wet & cold [21:19] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@cf983e33.cpe.net.cable.f33844f1.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] [21:19] Each season last no more than 2 weeks [21:20] yup [21:20] and hurricane [21:21] *** BonnieCyr (Mibbit@6a8c81d5.dhcp.oxfr.ma.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:21] Yeah our two major parties: Madri Gras and hurricane [21:21] at least there's a party between hurricanes [21:22] We party during the hurricanes [21:22] ok all, my daughter is insisting on bed, and I've forced myself to stay up long enough! a good night to you all and may you have a blessed Imbolc or first Harvest! [21:22] Night Sara [21:22] oh yea Rovena.....I've had some fun hurricane parties lol [21:22] though it's been a while [21:22] Night, Sara! [21:22] for real now, good night! [21:22] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@93581b89.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:23] I want to see Mardi Gras. I was in New Orleans for Halloween several years ago. Spent my birthday on Bourbon St. [21:23] Night! [21:23] [Owlhawk] One day i want to go to New Orleans. Just to say I went there. [21:23] There is no place like the French Quarter [21:23] I went there for the Super Bowl in '86 [21:24] French Quarter is *awesome* [21:24] I'd love to visit some day. [21:24] [Owlhawk] I was just entering high school at that point....well almost entering [21:25] [Owlhawk] no, math correction, was in high school! [21:25] I wasn't quite yet. [21:25] [Owlhawk] I had to actually stop and count from my year of birth.... [21:26] My first year of college. [21:26] Bears beat the Patriots, right? [21:27] [Owlhawk] yes they did. Ditka's team [21:28] Yep, I had a ticket in the 15 yard line, right behind Wilbur Marshall's parents [21:28] on the... [21:28] [Owlhawk] Lucky you. [21:28] Face value, $75 [21:29] [Owlhawk] And hopefully the Seahawks win on Sunday. I have a Draught style ale and a Brown ale ready for the game, although they are young [21:29] [Owlhawk] wow. that's enough to tell you how long ago it was [21:30] I have to cheer for the hometeam. [21:31] I'll root for the beer, I'm not a football fan. [21:31] [Owlhawk] I am a Maple Leafs fan....I understand [21:31] ;) [21:31] [Owlhawk] lol [21:32] I'm more for hockey than football. [21:34] I have a question about mentors. Do a lot of people get them, or is it a rare thing? [21:34] Lots of people have them and find them really helpful [21:34] Not sure how we're defining "lots" there, not that I have the numbers handy. [21:35] It's certainly not rare. [21:35] More important than how popular it is . . would it be helpful to you. [21:36] I'm on the fence about getting one. [21:36] SOme people benefit greatly others do not. Your style of learning is the key [21:36] I have been a mentor and I think it was herlpful [21:36] I find myself wanting someone to talk to about my studies, early though I am in the path, and this area is filled with many Wiccan groups, but no Druids that I know of and want to talk to. [21:36] You came to the right place! [21:36] I'm in the same boat [21:36] Ask away [21:36] The ADF-Discuss list is an awesome place to talk to us about Druid stuff. [21:36] yep [21:37] or ADF-DEDICANTS [21:37] for DP stuff [21:37] [Owlhawk] Never hesitate to ask questions. We answer all of them [21:37] If it's about Dedicant studies, then sure. [21:37] Yes, true, Rob [21:38] If we don't know the answer we probqbly know who does [21:39] *** Dale_ (guest@da0a743d.new.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #adf [21:39] I usually end up taking so much time writing the question so it looks right that I get frustrated :) [21:39] Hello [21:39] Hello there [21:40] Hey Dale [21:40] Hi Tom [21:40] Hello Dale [21:40] Hi Carrion and Rovena [21:40] DP is about learning not perfection [21:40] It sure is. It is absolutely about the journey! [21:41] I strugle with the perfection thing too. I started a bullet journal recently and that's helping me overcome that. [21:42] "The perfect is the enemy of the good." [21:42] CaitD, that's really cool, I'm sitting here updating my ADF bullet journal right now :D [21:42] It took me 4 years to complete my journey because it was never good enough for me. I understand. [21:42]