*** Opened channel log for #ADF at 19/08/2014 7:06:11 PM [19:06] *** Owlhawk (Owlhawk@cf983e33.cpe.net.cable.f33844f1.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:06] *** Mode change [+nt] on #ADF by circe.sorcery.net [19:06] *** ChanServ (services@services.sorcery.net) has joined #ADF [19:06] *** Mode change [+o ChanServ] on #ADF by services.sorcery.net [19:06] *** ChanServ has changed the topic on #ADF to "Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org" [19:06] *** ChanServ (services@services.sorcery.net) has left #ADF [19:19] *** DaveKleinschmidt (Mibbit@de294aa3.neo.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:19] *** DaveKleinschmidt (Mibbit@de294aa3.neo.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [19:21] *** Thexalon (Mibbit@de294aa3.neo.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:26] [Owlhawk] hello [19:28] *** Moontiger (Mibbit@19f716ab.ok.5eb2c41d.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:30] Hi there. My name is Traci I just rejoined ADF again. I would like to finish my DP and start on a clergy journey. I had today off work and decided to spend some time in Nature and that I sure did while gathering wild berries I came face to face with Black Bear who just stared into my eyes for what was maybe 15 20 seconds seemed like a lifetime. [19:30] *** Erin (Mibbit@b01a4f1d.wireless.dea5ebc4.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:30] What meaning can I find in this other than I am still alive and well [19:31] *** Erin is now known as erinn [19:32] [Owlhawk] That sounds like a good start to me. [19:32] *** erinn is now known as Guest37724 [19:32] lol thanks... I thought its about ego and boundaries. I am not sure and there is so much garbage information. I just wonder if anyone has had this happen and how they felt ??? [19:34] [Owlhawk] I've sat in a cab and waited 20 mins for a bear to get off the road. I've also had a wolf run in front of me when driving. Generally it's, at the most, a nature spirit saying hello [19:34] This is my first chat. Is there a topic you all talk on or any such topic.?? I ask as I was picking and foraging today as I do every day off. Does anyone use fireweed? If so what for. I like it as a wild salad with berries?? Its a nice tea with honey and rose petals. [19:34] [Owlhawk] some times it's something you can look at for totem work [19:35] ok I think I can take from that thanks...... [19:35] [Owlhawk] Chat starts at 8 actually. I'm not sure if this is a free chat this week or not... [19:35] [Owlhawk] We'll check with Rovena when she gets here. [19:35] OOOO Ok Im in BC its 435 PM no worries [19:35] [Owlhawk] lol. [19:36] [Owlhawk] 8 est...so in about a half hour [19:36] *** Moontiger (Mibbit@19f716ab.ok.5eb2c41d.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [19:39] *** Rovena (rovena@6ca5ecc2.a55580.67.143.imsk) has joined #ADF [19:39] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [19:41] *** Eerin (Mibbit@b01a4f1d.wireless.dea5ebc4.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:41] Hello? [19:42] [Owlhawk] hello [19:42] Hello [19:42] Jay? [19:42] *** Lesley (Mibbit@8701b380.lightspeed.hstntx.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:42] Hello [19:42] how are yall [19:43] Hey Leslie [19:44] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@6e188568.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:44] Just found out that my mom has cirrhosis of the liver and has one year to live :( [19:44] good evening all! [19:44] oh no! I'm sorry :( [19:44] Sorry to hear this. [19:44] :( ty [19:45] I'm a little in shock. [19:45] [Owlhawk] that sucks. [19:46] oh no sorry to hear [19:46] prayers for you and yours [19:46] Plz ty [19:47] May Garanus the God of Transformation be with you and yours through this transition period and help it be as peaceful and painless as possible. [19:48] Unfortunately she is in a fair amount of pain. It's the nature of the disease :( [19:49] Ty much. For the sentiment [19:49] [Owlhawk] You'll get through it, and support her along her journey [19:49] and we will be here to support you [19:50] Ty. I was making plans to move out too.. [19:51] *** PC (Mibbit@c079adbd.hsd1.ga.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:52] Hello PC [19:54] sorry if distracted tonight yall, working on my vape shop website trying to get products up quickly [19:55] [Owlhawk] Toronto is discussing applying the anti smoking laws to vaping [19:55] so what is everyone working on? did anyone go to Summerland? [19:55] [Owlhawk] I* started 2 strawberry meads. [19:56] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:56] I finished chapter in my second book [19:56] Hello William [19:56] Marc got dog tags saying "druid" on them... Canadian military [19:56] Hello [19:56] I'm working on getting Trance 1 written up this week myself :) [19:56] [Owlhawk] I saw your post about that. I'm a surprised by it considering the scum in Ottawa right now. [19:57] [Owlhawk] well done Sara. [19:57] LOve the dog tags [19:57] thanks! [19:57] one step at a time right [19:58] [Owlhawk] all the course work you and a few others do is making me feel a little lazy.... [19:58] meh, I've just been very focused the past few months in writing them, I have been doing the research and work for a while though [19:59] I think I'm going to put my DP on hold for now. [19:59] *** ambermdoty (ambermdoty@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:00] Hello Amber [20:00] Good evening. [20:00] Definitely don't stress out over the DP right now [20:00] [Owlhawk] lots of time to do that Eerin. [20:01] No one tracks how long you take to finish [20:01] love the dog tags [20:01] yeah lots of places are no vape now too [20:02] I am working on my divination 1 course for ADF [20:02] and just got asked to speak at Houston Pagan Pride day on virtues and ADF [20:02] so going to refresh some of my information with that [20:02] [Owlhawk] I got the wood medallions for my Greek Alphabet Oracle. Now I need to figure out how to carve them. They cost me a bottle of mead. [20:03] *** RobHenderson (Mibbit@5a79652d.hsd1.mi.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:03] [Owlhawk] Sounds interesting [20:03] Hello rob [20:03] *** Tercenya (Tercenya@6ca5ed3a.6ca5ed57.24.42.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:03] [Owlhawk] Hi Rob [20:03] Good evening. [20:03] hey Rob [20:04] and everyone I forgot to say hi to [20:04] [Owlhawk] You came in when I was getting Chocolate and a bottle of mead. Forgot when I got back upstairs. Sorry [20:04] Hi all! [20:04] [Owlhawk] Hi Leslie [20:04] Impressive turnout! [20:05] it's an exciting turnout [20:05] Hello all [20:05] [Owlhawk] no fests this week [20:05] I miss fests, I did not make any this year and feeling it [20:06] I miss all of my northern kindreds [20:06] I'm still working on getting to Midnight Flame, haven't missed one in years. [20:06] I'm hoping to get to some of the others one day [20:06] that is one I have not made yet [20:06] [Owlhawk] We're going to have to skip Midnight Flame this year. Hopefully we can save for next year. [20:07] I'm definitely looking forward to Midnight Flame . [20:07] I am hoping to make TX Imbolc, Wellspring, and Midnight Flame next year....I have decided that once the shop is running smooth, that I am going to travel a little more [20:08] [Owlhawk] We're up in the air about Wellspring. We'll see in the spring. We'll make Three Rivers in June. [20:09] *** ErinF (Mibbit@14055a57.14055ad5.104.139.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:09] I want to at least make 2 adf festivals next year, that's the goal, hopefully I can work it out [20:10] [Owlhawk] Start one in Florida! [20:10] Wow, I guess Trillium is the closest one to Florida? [20:10] it is the closest, and that's at good 13 hrs [20:10] Or maybe the Imbolc thing in Texas, if that considers itself a festival. [20:10] yea, I don't have time to run a festival lol [20:10] I feel ya on distance [20:11] which is why we started the one in TX [20:11] Hello Erin [20:11] [Owlhawk] Most fests are a min of 8 hours for me. [20:11] Howdy [20:11] Texas is still pretty far. where in texas is it though? near San Antonio at all? [20:11] yes it is near San Antonio [20:11] at the U bar U ranch [20:11] I think the closest one to me is 12 hours so I feel your pain. [20:12] *** Eerin is now known as erinp [20:12] hmm, maybe I can swing it and visit my sister, that would be a good way to do both :) [20:12] hey and if need to break up drive welcome at my place in Pasadena outside Houston [20:13] :) cool [20:13] Have a good night guys/gals. [20:13] there is a FL festival I go to at least, so there is that, but it's not the same vibe [20:14] [Owlhawk] Good night Erin [20:14] good night [20:14] Night night. [20:14] night [20:14] kindreds bless [20:14] yeah something about adf festivals and the vibe [20:15] I feel that when I go north to them [20:15] I like that they are more focused (on adf) and the rituals, love all the rituals [20:15] and the bards singing [20:16] the ones down here have only an opening, main, and close, and for a 5 day festival that is not much [20:16] Yeah, it always amuses me how non-ADF festivals have a hard time getting people to offer to run rituals. [20:16] brb cooking dinner [20:16] I have been doing a workshop space for ritual, they want the main ritual to be more showy, and I've not been up for that [20:17] [Owlhawk] KG has a decent number of rituals, but it's a big fest [20:17] I sympathize. I'd want the big space, but then I've been doing this for eighteen years. [20:17] At more generalize fests, you have so many different traditions it is hard to please the majority [20:18] I would be doing it by myself though, and that is the tricky part, it would be hard to get helpers that felt comfortable [20:18] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:18] The times I've done opening or closing rites for big not-ADF festivals, I just do it as an ADF rite. Let 'em be pleased, or not. Generally, they're pleased. [20:18] [Owlhawk] lol [20:20] the folks down here have liked the adf style rituals, which is kinda cool. it's also very different from what they are used to [20:20] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:20] [Owlhawk] when is the florida fest you go to? [20:21] I think it's better to show people what our rituals are like (and how well they work) rather than try to mix in lots of other elements. [20:21] f [20:21] pg [20:21] i've seen that type too, it just doesn't work for me [20:22] *** erinp (Mibbit@b01a4f1d.wireless.dea5ebc4.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:22] One opening rite at ConVocation had multiple groups (SLG included) doing a piece of the opening rituals in their own tradition. Gods, that sucked. [20:23] it seems it would be too confusing [20:23] *** Lesley (Mibbit@8701b380.lightspeed.hstntx.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:23] *** jscavotto13 (Mibbit@723712b8.ri.ri.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:24] Yeah that would be a challenge to be functional. [20:24] *** Guest37724 (Mibbit@b01a4f1d.wireless.dea5ebc4.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:24] Nothing remotely resembling ritual flow happened. [20:25] Better to let one group do the rite, and then use the central part of the rite to let other groups do small offerings or invocations or whatever they do. [20:25] True [20:25] [Owlhawk] Rob, that makes far too much sense for most gatherings. [20:26] I also appreciate the festivals for seeing how others do ritual, and Rob, so true [20:26] *** jscavotto13 (Mibbit@723712b8.ri.ri.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:27] The last one I ran was last summer, and I told them if I did the opening it would be an ADF rite, and they were fine with that. And folks told me they liked it. Including Margot Adler! [20:28] It was apparently the first Druid ritual she'd attended (and possibly the last, sadly). [20:28] That's awesome. We're doing the main ritual for PPD this year so I'm pretty excited. [20:29] very cool Rob! that is exciting Amber [20:29] Nice! [20:29] I'm going to a PPD, which is more than I've done in the past few years [20:29] I need to do a blog write-up of the fire thing we did for PPD a few weeks ago. [20:29] but it's pretty far, on the other coast from where I live. [20:30] I'm the coordinator for the local PPD. We're only in our 2nd year of the event, but that's more than Nebraska has ever had in the past. It's interesting to say the least [20:30] How many do you get? [20:31] [Owlhawk] you're 2 up on my area, so well done [20:31] It'll be interesting to see how this one goes, it's the first year I think it's happening at this spot [20:31] You mean in attendance? [20:31] I might try and check the Orlando one, if it's still running [20:31] [Owlhawk] Does Tampa have one? [20:31] What's a PPD? Sorry. New here. :) [20:31] Pagan Pride Day [20:32] Oh ok. Know about those. Just didn't know the acronym. ;) [20:32] :) No problem. ADF uses a lot of acronyms so it can get confusing when other stuff gets brought up on top of it. [20:32] yep, attendance [20:33] Detroit got maybe 200. [20:33] Last year we had 150 people, which seemed like a decent turn out for us. [20:33] Omaha doesn't have a very public Pagan population, so we're working on it. [20:33] no Tampa doesn't, and it doesn't look like the Orlando one is happening this year either [20:34] Ann Arbor gets one nest year, if I have any say in the matter. And survive. >8) [20:34] Lol. Good luck with that Rob. [20:34] We would kill to get 100 people to show up for anything here [20:35] I understand. We were very pleased with 150 for sure. It was what we had hoped for, but we had prepared ourselves to be standing in the park all alone all day. Although the workshops would have been way less effective that way :) [20:41] *** ErinF (Mibbit@14055a57.14055ad5.104.139.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:42] We have gotten quiet [20:42] I know, I thought maybe I bored everyone to sleep. [20:43] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:43] Nah [20:43] [Owlhawk] I'm catching up on season 2 of Arrow [20:43] so I'll bring up trance.....if you practice, what is your preferred method to getting there? [20:44] Rhythmic breathing. [20:44] Moving meditation for me. Sword practice. [20:44] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:44] [Owlhawk] I tend to keep to light to med trance as I'm doing it alone. Ground and center, couple of methods and then go from there, rest depends on what I'm doing. [20:44] are noises distracting? or helpful? [20:44] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:45] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:45] Hello fifth Root [20:45] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:45] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [20:46] [Owlhawk] depends on the noise. one meditation I learned years ago is to allow all the noises I hear to become part of the rhythm of the world. [20:46] *** JasonM (AndChat501@a5557d.6ca5ed3d.12.71.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:46] Hay all [20:46] hello [20:46] Hello Jason [20:46] [Owlhawk] hello [20:46] Hey Jason [20:47] Hi Jason. [20:47] I do mine silently, but I know a lot of people prefer rhythmic beating of some sort. [20:47] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:47] What's tonight's topic? [20:47] [Owlhawk] currently trance [20:47] [Owlhawk] and our techniques that we use [20:48] Ah I find a good old camp fire can be a fantastic trance catalyst [20:48] I generally do mine in silence, but when i'm in a group setting that's a hindrance because the noises don't let me get in the zone so much [20:49] [Owlhawk] fire doesn't work for some journeys. I find there's too many people around them usually [20:49] I have a hard time with trance in groups too [20:49] [Owlhawk] it takes practice [20:50] One of the reasons I keep a fire pit in my back yard [20:50] Take my fire and going home :p [20:50] *** Rovena (rovena@6ca5ecc2.a55580.67.143.imsk) has quit IRC [Remote host closed the connection] [20:50] *** SeanHarbaugh (Mibbit@14055a91.6ca5ed20.99.30.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:51] Sorry I'm in an odd mood tonight [20:51] [Owlhawk] I attend a group energy workshop about once a year or so at a fest that includes trance work. that helps with practicing. [20:51] I bet [20:51] I'm also cautious about who I do that stuff with. but that's me [20:51] [Owlhawk] Definitely. You have to be. [20:51] Hello everyone! [20:51] Hey Sean [20:51] hey Sean! [20:51] [Owlhawk] Hi Sean [20:52] Hay Sean [20:52] *** Rovena (rovena@6ca5ecc2.a55580.67.143.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:52] *** Mode change [+o Rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [20:52] *** ErinP (Mibbit@be42c9aa.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:52] That's why we try not to do trance at all in our public rites. Too many new folks, too many shy folks. [20:53] Hi again [20:53] Hello Erin [20:53] Hey JasonM [20:53] I can't see trance going well at public rites [20:54] some folks do it [20:54] But some people think trancework equals ritual, so we sometimes get complaints. [20:54] I mean there is a light trance state generally while doing ritual, it seems that way at least [20:55] [Owlhawk] For most people, yes. Light trance will come with Gound and Centering, due to practice. [20:55] [Owlhawk] if nothing else [20:55] I agree Sara but I think it's different air at least seen as different [20:56] *** fifthRoot (Thunderbir@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: fifthRoot] [20:56] yes, the definitions tend to vary wildly it seems though [20:57] or at least the experiences can vary wildly [20:59] [Owlhawk] and the working itself, forgot to type that part... [21:05] I don't think I'll be able to do the regional druid thing I' [21:05] If [21:05] If mom dies next year [21:06] Wow, I'm so sorry that's even a consideration erin [21:06] She has cirrhosis of the liver [21:07] She'll be dead by next Aug. [21:07] Oh wow [21:07] :( [21:07] I'm sorry to hear that Erin. [21:07] I'm sorry. [21:08] Nods [21:08] I'm sorry erin. [21:08] Ty. [21:08] Being RD is a lot of work for sure, so you be sure to do what you have to do for you in that situation. [21:08] Yes [21:09] I'm deputy regional druid for Eastern Canada now [21:09] [Owlhawk] Erin, leave it be for now. deal with now, worry about the future in the future [21:09] Italy be a welcome distraction [21:09] It may be, stupid tablet [21:10] Lol [21:10] Ty for making me smile [21:10] Where are you in Canada Erin? [21:10] Ottawa [21:10] I grew up in Southern Ontario. [21:10] Cool. [21:11] Near Niagara Falls. [21:11] I'm part of Red Maple Grove [21:11] I live in Georgia now. [21:11] [Owlhawk] well, no shoveling at least [21:11] There's no discussion tonight cause Michael is sick. [21:11] Ahh cool. [21:11] [Owlhawk] flu, I saw that [21:12] Brb [21:12] No...definitely no more shoveling. Lol [21:12] Back. [21:12] [Owlhawk] front [21:12] *** Lesley (Mibbit@8701b380.lightspeed.hstntx.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:13] Side side [21:13] i back [21:13] Hay lesley [21:13] * ErinP smacks owlhawk [21:13] Lol [21:13] what is the topic? [21:13] I can't smack the whole channel [21:14] Lol [21:15] Everyone, I must go. I just wanted to drop in and say hello. I hope you all have a wonderful rest of your week. :) [21:15] kindreds bless and nights' [21:15] Thanks Sean [21:15] [Owlhawk] good night sean [21:15] Later sean [21:15] Night Sean [21:15] *** SeanHarbaugh (Mibbit@14055a91.6ca5ed20.99.30.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:16] * ErinP ponders taking a shower... [21:16] water might do me good. [21:16] Rain or baby? [21:16] lol [21:16] Rain. [21:17] * Rovena ducking under a big rock [21:17] ok, I need to get going too. tired and have a cranky lass . night all! [21:17] I'm off as well. [21:17] [Owlhawk] good night Sara and cranky Daphne! [21:18] [Owlhawk] By Rob [21:18] Kindreds bless and night those that are off to sleep [21:18] Night Rob [21:18] Night guys [21:18] I will be up for some time tonight [21:18] NIght Sara [21:18] so much to do [21:18] Night Jason [21:18] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@6e188568.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:18] No I'm staying [21:19] Can't get rid of me that easy. Mawahahaha [21:19] I'm headed out as well. Good night all. [21:19] *** RobHenderson (Mibbit@5a79652d.hsd1.mi.5aa6454b.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:19] Night Tercenya [21:19] Oh.. [21:20] *** Tercenya (Tercenya@6ca5ed3a.6ca5ed57.24.42.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Leaving] [21:21] [Owlhawk] So, trance or new topic? [21:22] I need to leave as well. Night all. [21:22] [Owlhawk] good night Rovena [21:22] *** Rovena (rovena@6ca5ecc2.a55580.67.143.imsk) has left #ADF [21:23] New topic [21:24] *** Dale_ (guest@da0a743d.new.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:25] Hay Dale [21:25] Good evening :) [21:25] Hi Jason [21:25] [Owlhawk] any favourite divination techniques? [21:26] I've been working with the Greek Alphabet Oracle and that's been interesting. [21:26] in public I like oghams, but in personal I use my crane set [21:26] [Owlhawk] I have the wooden disks for a Greek Alphabet Oracle. Now I need to burn them. [21:26] [Owlhawk] Till them I'm stillusing my runes [21:26] The only one I have any experience with is ogham. Divination is not my strong suit [21:27] Cool owlhawk [21:27] I use runes [21:27] I love divination.....don't know why but do [21:27] [Owlhawk] Bought the disks from Herne at KG for a bottle of Blueberry mead. [21:27] cool [21:27] Nice [21:28] I haven’t really done much with divination. I made a set of Ogham staves, but I haven’t used them much. I’ve never been much into divination. [21:28] I made my own too. But I just use them for ritual omens [21:28] [Owlhawk] I don't use it much outside Ritual and daily prayers [21:29] My wife is the semiprofessional reader…we let her do our ritual omens. [21:29] Sounds like a good plan [21:29] I don't use my oghams much outside of public things, but my crane almost all the time [21:29] it always leads me where I need to be in my life [21:30] Dale that is cool [21:30] Welp, I've had a very bad day, so I'm going to bed. G'night folks! [21:30] night [21:31] The one rite she was sick, I used my ogham and pulled out the ADF book to figure out what they meant…it wasn’t a shining example of taking an omen :D [21:31] [Owlhawk] good night Sara [21:31] I have to go tuck my son in and stuff as well so I am going to head out too. Good night guys. [21:31] but it works [21:31] *** ambermdoty (ambermdoty@c3e66333.om.om.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Leaving] [21:31] at least you were willing [21:31] [Owlhawk] Erin.... [21:31] *** ErinP (Mibbit@be42c9aa.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:31] I know many who don't [21:31] *** ErinP (Mibbit@be42c9aa.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:34] *** ErinP (Mibbit@be42c9aa.dsl.282eb7d8.ca.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [21:34] [Owlhawk] And my father has gotten a Ransom Ware Virus! [21:35] On my trips for work, I try to do a morning devotional and draw three ogham. I don’t use them so much as my understanding of divination, but as concepts to focus on for the day. [21:35] [Owlhawk] I do daily prayers. At the close of which I draw an omen. [21:35] that is part of the point [21:36] Ouch. I saw the headline of an article that said that one of the major antivirus manufacturers said that antivirus is dead. Antivirus these days doesn’t seem to protect against much. [21:36] [Owlhawk] and I draw them for much the same reason as Lesley. [21:36] [Owlhawk] It's not dead. It's just incredilbly hard to get rid of. It'll take an hour or two. [21:36] [Owlhawk] one of the worst one's you can get. [21:37] I think they were trying to say that the antivirus product niche is dead as the virus writers can write viruses faster than antivirus companies can protect against them. [21:38] Well, good luck recovering his data :) [21:38] yall are talking beyond my dealings lol [21:38] [Owlhawk] ah. Meh, it's not hard to get rid if so long as you have a bootable antivirus that can target the damn thing. Hitman Pro workds well. [21:38] divination yes, antivirus no [21:39] I usually pay someone to take care of the comps [21:39] [Owlhawk] LOL. He asked me if he could fix it...speaking of outside someone's dealings. [21:39] [Owlhawk] I charge 30 an hour... [21:39] wow [21:40] Owl, pull the drive and plug it into a Linux box as a secondary. Copy the required data. Over, scan with clamav and output to a completely different drive. Pull the original, fdisk and rebuild [21:41] [Owlhawk] Nah, boot off of the Hitman Pro USB stick and then remove the thing. I don't have a linux box at the moment. [21:41] [Owlhawk] that removes it. [21:41] [Owlhawk] I have removed this thing before...... [21:41] Fun [21:43] Do you make offerings before data recovery? [21:43] [Owlhawk] no. Mead making....yes [21:43] Lol [21:45] What do you differently when making mead because of the omens? [21:45] *** fifthRoot (jacob@acdf9ede.ph.ph.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:46] [Owlhawk] I don't draw an omen for that. I do prayers during the recipe ingredient assemblyin the fermentor and then burn incense as an offering. [21:46] Welcome back fifth [21:46] Ah, I misread offering as omen. [21:46] [Owlhawk] Prayers are ususally to Dionysus and Deo. [21:46] ty. wanted grub before the meeting haha [21:47] Do you use a yeast starter Owl? [21:47] [Owlhawk] not usually. Yeast will fight just fine. [21:47] [Owlhawk] I only use a starter when I need to restart a stuck fermentation [21:47] [Owlhawk] I work towards flavour not alcohol content [21:50] When I use one I've started setting aside a portion of the starter wort for an offering to the local land spirits. I've found it to work well [21:50] Like setting aside part of a meal. [21:51] *** Thexalon (Mibbit@de294aa3.neo.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:56] [Owlhawk] that would work I would think. and then some of the finished mead [21:58] [Owlhawk] and now to see if it's fixable... [21:58] I Always set aside a bit of the finished product [22:01] [Owlhawk] Last two years I've donated a bottle to the KG Sumble of a group I'm good friends with. [22:02] Awesome [22:03] [Owlhawk] I also provide two bottles for the men's rite on the Sunday of KG. One for us, and one for the offering when we are finished at the Cairn. [22:03] I mostly "donate" my brew to friends [22:03] [Owlhawk] 15 or 20 a bottle for that [22:04] Our conversation always drifts to brewing owl [22:05] [Owlhawk] :D [22:05] [Owlhawk] I won Brewing comp at Wellsprings! [22:05] Did you? Congrats! [22:06] Most awesome [22:06] [Owlhawk] And took Third. [22:06] [Owlhawk] thank you. [22:06] Greedy😄 [22:06] [Owlhawk] :D [22:06] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:08] So what has every one else been up to? [22:10] I was just called a hippy 😠 [22:11] [Owlhawk] well done [22:11] By a lawyer, I'm not sure it was ment to be a compliment [22:12] And you calling said person a ‘lawyer’, is probably not one either ;) [22:12] He probably thinks it is [22:13] I think I spend way to much time in hotel bars [22:13] I wanted to go into IP law, and loby against the crazy software patents and patent law we have in the US. [22:13] [Owlhawk] good luck with that one [22:13] We could use more people doing that [22:14] The time has passed. I don’t have the time, or energy to go back to school anymore. [22:20] What do you do for work now Dale? [22:28] *** Lesley (Mibbit@8701b380.lightspeed.hstntx.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:28] I’m an embedded software engineer. [22:29] I bring up hardware, along with some application software for heavy duty trucks. I wrote some of the software that went on one of the autonomous vehicles for the DARPA Urban Grand Challenge. [22:30] Awesome [22:31] Yeah, but ever since the Urban Grand Challenge, work has been rather mundane :) [22:32] That happens [22:34] It does seem that the programming world has left me a bit behind…there’s quite a lot of exciting stuff going on that I haven’t been able to get into. However, I keep reminding myself that it leaves more creative energy left for things outside work. [22:37] Nothing wrong with working your own projects [22:38] I need to bale. Have a great night all. [22:38] Good night :) [22:38] *** JasonM (AndChat501@a5557d.6ca5ed3d.12.71.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Bye] [22:39] [Owlhawk] blink twice, and you miss people leaving [22:39] Yep :) [22:40] [Owlhawk] and Dad's computer is fixed. [22:41] :) [22:41] [Owlhawk] there's a variant now that only locks the browser I guess....that was stupid easy. ccleaner and done the fucking thing! [22:42] I haven’t worked much with maintaining Windows for quite awhile. I’m on a Mac at home. [22:42] [Owlhawk] I'm sorry [22:42] LOL [22:42] [Owlhawk] There is help for that.... [22:43] I used to use Linux, but maintaining and tweeking it was a job of its own, and I moved past having fun tweeking and more wanting to use the computer for other things. [22:43] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat77@e2dcf149.abhsia.dea5ebc4.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [22:43] [Owlhawk] Yeah, that's why I haven't gotten into Linux, that and the difficulty of installing the stupid thing. [22:45] I installed it first in 1994 when I had to buy it on 20 3.5” floppy disks [22:46] *** MatthewSeneca (AndChat806@6ca5f05e.6ca5ec85.66.87.imsk) has joined #ADF [22:47] *** MatthewSeneca (AndChat806@6ca5f05e.6ca5ec85.66.87.imsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [22:47] *** MatthewSeneca (AndChat806@b08c4caa.pools.aa393787.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [22:48] *** MatthewSeneca (AndChat806@b08c4caa.pools.aa393787.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [22:48] *** MatthewSeneca (AndChat806@6ca5f05e.6ca5ec85.66.87.imsk) has joined #ADF [22:52] [Owlhawk] hello Matthew. [22:54] Hello again Owlhawk [22:55] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat77@e2dcf149.abhsia.dea5ebc4.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [22:55] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat77@e2dcf149.abhsia.dea5ebc4.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [22:56] I know I'm late to the party but how's everyone? [22:57] [Owlhawk] good. just finished fixing my dad's computer [22:58] Awesome.i bet he was happy about that [22:59] [Owlhawk] I've done it often enough for them that it's routine now. Ransom ware virus. Tood about a half hour or so. [23:03] How do you fix that? Does it call for a full format of do you have software? I know thats off topic but in case it happens here to friend/family [23:04] [Owlhawk] I have software. First time it took me two days. Once I found the software, it got much easier. Formating is a standard answer that is much easier for most people. [23:07] [Owlhawk] manually editing the registry via a boot disk and then removing the appropriate files can work as well..... [23:08] *** Dale_ (guest@da0a743d.new.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: Dale_] [23:11] Okay. Thanks for the tip [23:12] I have a family friend that attract virus like nothing else [23:12] [Owlhawk] tell him to stay off the porn sites. it'll cut the infections dramatically [23:15] Lol. I would but she does not go to those. Checked the history to be sure [23:16] [Owlhawk] the safe answer for most people for viruses is reinstall windows. format first. or run restore. [23:16] [Owlhawk] history can be erased [23:20] Yeah, she's fine for now. I just clean it up once and a while. I know the random ware is getting big now though [23:20] *** Dale_ (guest@da0a743d.new.res.14056255.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [23:20] [Owlhawk] make sure she's only running one antivirus, I use MSE. [23:21] [Owlhawk] some people run 2 or 3 thinking it will make them safer, when really it creates holes [23:23] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [23:25] [Owlhawk] hello again Dale. Hello William [23:25] I put my kids to bed…which took longer than expected. It’ll be fun getting them on a school schedule next week. [23:25] [Owlhawk] good luck with that [23:26] They’ve been staying up until after 10pm, and will need to get to bed by 8pm. So, yeah, it’ll be loads of fun. [23:28] Hello Dale and William. I can't wait until my little boy gets to start school. I'll definitely know your pain [23:28] [Owlhawk] My brother and his wife keep the kids on a close to normal schedule for the summer [23:29] Hi Matthew. Both my kids will be in school full days this year, what a blessing :D [23:31] *** William (Mibbit@a2e0cdfa.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [23:31] *** Raggiedmon (IceChat77@e2dcf149.abhsia.dea5ebc4.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] [23:36] I just had my second so to have one in school will be helpful [23:38] [Owlhawk] alright, I'm off to bed. good night all [23:38] Good night *** Closed channel log for #ADF at 19/08/2014 11:38:41 PM