Session Start: Tue Jun 25 19:50:52 2019 Session Ident: #adf 25[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * Now talking in: #adf 25[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * Owlhawk (Owlhawk@sorcery-t50kai.cable.rogers.com) joins #adf 28[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org 28[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * Topic set by ChanServ!services@services.sorcery.net at Mon Aug 03 08:55:47 2015 29[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Owlhawk 29[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * #adf has modes: +nrt 29[2019-06-25 19:50:52] * #adf created on Fri May 24 18:37:54 2019 18[2019-06-25 19:51:05]  Hi Owlhawk! 21[2019-06-25 19:51:58] <@Owlhawk> 'ello 25[2019-06-25 19:55:34] * Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) joins #adf 29[2019-06-25 19:55:47] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rovena 27[2019-06-25 19:59:54] * @Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) has quit IRC (Connection closed) 25[2019-06-25 20:00:08] * Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) joins #adf 29[2019-06-25 20:00:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rovena 25[2019-06-25 20:09:17] * ShazCairns (ShazCairns@sorcery-noir40.optusnet.com.au) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 20:09:44]  hello everyone :) 16[2019-06-25 20:09:51] <@Rovena> Good Morning, Shaz 16[2019-06-25 20:09:59] <@Rovena> How are you? 16[2019-06-25 20:10:25]  Good evening to you. I am doing okay. 16[2019-06-25 20:10:55]  got my cup of coffee, sitting down for a chat 16[2019-06-25 20:11:05] <@Rovena> Excellent! 16[2019-06-25 20:11:56] <@Rovena> How was your solstice? 16[2019-06-25 20:12:22]  Hi people! 16[2019-06-25 20:12:33]  wonderful, I got to attend 2 16[2019-06-25 20:12:36] <@Rovena> Hello Mouse 16[2019-06-25 20:12:45]  hi Mouse 16[2019-06-25 20:13:31] <@Rovena> We had to cancel ours as the heat index was 105F and the church's air conditioner was hit with lightning. 16[2019-06-25 20:13:40]  Eep! 16[2019-06-25 20:13:46]  oh no 16[2019-06-25 20:14:11]  I trust no people were hurt by the lightning strike? 16[2019-06-25 20:14:19]  At least not directly? 16[2019-06-25 20:14:46] <@Rovena> No one was there when it hit. 16[2019-06-25 20:14:56]  That much is good, at least. 16[2019-06-25 20:14:59]  our weather held up pretty well, freezing cold in Central Victoria 16[2019-06-25 20:16:35] <@Rovena> Not a fan of freezing weather but then people here don't know how to drive on ice or snow 16[2019-06-25 20:16:39]  My solstice was interesting. Last weekend my wife and I went to the North American Gaeltacht for an intensive (Irish) Gaelic weekend. Sunday we drove back and went straight to hold our solstice ritual, which went pretty well. 16[2019-06-25 20:17:07]  that sounds wonderful 16[2019-06-25 20:17:11]  It was! 25[2019-06-25 20:18:13] * generallyCobalt (uid104582@sorcery-rvgg50.stonehaven.irccloud.com) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 20:18:21]  I learnt a craft; I learnt more about the language; I got to meet cool people. What's not to like? :-) 16[2019-06-25 20:18:44] <@Rovena> Hello Cobalt 16[2019-06-25 20:18:48]  Hi hi 16[2019-06-25 20:18:50]  amazing, what craft did you learn? 16[2019-06-25 20:18:53] <@Rovena> What craft did you learn, Mouse? 16[2019-06-25 20:18:55]  (Well, besides the flying wildlife wanting to use me as dinner. :-) 27[2019-06-25 20:19:02] * @Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) has quit IRC (Connection closed) 16[2019-06-25 20:19:29]  oh, what were they? 16[2019-06-25 20:19:43]  hi Cobalt 16[2019-06-25 20:19:46]  A not-quite-knitting way of making things out of yarn/thread/rope. At a quick glance the products look knitted, but they aren't; it's got numerous differences on a closer look. 16[2019-06-25 20:20:02]  There's a(n English) term for it but I don't recall what it is. 16[2019-06-25 20:20:05]  that sounds cool 16[2019-06-25 20:20:26]  is it like macrame? 16[2019-06-25 20:21:20]  It was, it was! Well, it can be like macrame if you do it on a large size. But on the scale I was working, it is more like knitting in the sort of products it produces - things like socks, gloves, mittens, scarves, sweaters, etc. 25[2019-06-25 20:21:20] * Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) joins #adf 29[2019-06-25 20:21:27] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rovena 16[2019-06-25 20:21:45]  cool 25[2019-06-25 20:22:30] * NathanLarge (NathanLarge@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 20:22:35]  ShazCairns, you asked "what were they?". If that was asked to me, what is the "they" you're asking about? (If not, never mind! :) 27[2019-06-25 20:22:41] * @Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) has quit IRC (Connection closed) 25[2019-06-25 20:22:50] * Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) joins #adf 29[2019-06-25 20:22:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rovena 16[2019-06-25 20:23:00]  I see Rovena's satellite link is being, well, a satellite link.... :-/ 16[2019-06-25 20:23:00]  oh, I was asking about the flying wildlife 16[2019-06-25 20:23:03]  Good evening! 16[2019-06-25 20:23:08]  Oh. Mosquitos and blackflies and the like. 16[2019-06-25 20:23:13]  ah 16[2019-06-25 20:23:20]  hi Nathan 16[2019-06-25 20:23:45] <@Rovena> Hello Nathan 16[2019-06-25 20:23:47]  The same stitch can apparently be used on a much larger scale to make fishing nets. 16[2019-06-25 20:24:58]  Sounds like a great weekend Mouse 16[2019-06-25 20:25:09]  And I finally learnt why I've had so much trouble figuring out whether to use "is" or "tá": the rule I learnt was a beginner's approximation. 25[2019-06-25 20:27:28] * StarQuake (Sol@sorcery-uuu.nij.54.208.IP) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 20:27:37] <@Rovena> Hello Starquake 16[2019-06-25 20:28:02]  Hello Rovena 16[2019-06-25 20:28:55] <@Rovena> How are you? 16[2019-06-25 20:28:55]  I’m busy tonight so I will be reading while I take care of a few things irl 16[2019-06-25 20:29:05] <@Rovena> Understand that 16[2019-06-25 20:30:40] <@Rovena> Mouse, that is part of the fun of learning a language as an adult 16[2019-06-25 20:34:01]  It is! 16[2019-06-25 20:35:05]  Though I do kinda wish we'd been _told_ it was just an approximation and could have asked for the real rule when we felt ready to handle it. 16[2019-06-25 20:35:10]  But, oh well. 16[2019-06-25 20:35:43] <@Rovena> Agrre, it would have been nice 16[2019-06-25 20:36:29]  The ritual went well too. We had five people, including the two of us, and were a little constrained in what we had available (because we came straight from the Gaeltacht weekend), but I feel it went pretty well nevertheless. 16[2019-06-25 20:37:32] <@Rovena> Intent is an important part of ritual which can get overlooked. 16[2019-06-25 20:38:06]  I think that's why it went OK: the Kindred are willing to overlook things such as limited physical form of offerings when the intent is there. 16[2019-06-25 20:39:43] <@Rovena> We have started an offering garden at the church's grove where we hold ritual. 16[2019-06-25 20:40:00] <@Rovena> We have tried before but it is finally starting to grow 16[2019-06-25 20:40:28]  That sounds lovely Rovena 16[2019-06-25 20:40:37]  Sweet!@ 16[2019-06-25 20:42:08]  Is the garden the offering, itself, or do you grow plants to offer? 16[2019-06-25 20:42:34] <@Rovena> A bit of both. 16[2019-06-25 20:43:59] <@Rovena> The plants are part of the boundary. They are pleasant to the eye and nose. ANy of them could be used as an offering. 16[2019-06-25 20:45:09] <@Rovena> Hubby and I couldn't get anything to grow there for years but a newer member is a gardener by trade and he had gotten everything he planted to grow. 16[2019-06-25 20:45:21]  It sounds like an excellent idea. Our Grove recently purchased a dozen saplings, for members to take home and foster until they're ready to be planted. 16[2019-06-25 20:46:14] <@Rovena> That is a great idea, Nathan. 16[2019-06-25 20:47:56]  Fosterage applied to trees? That's actually really cool! 16[2019-06-25 20:48:51]  It is cool 16[2019-06-25 20:52:32]  Hopefully, there are no losses, but our record is 3 for 4 previously. :( One oak didn't make it back from the winter. 16[2019-06-25 20:53:25]  We have a blue spruce... hopefully, hard to get wrong. 16[2019-06-25 20:56:21] <@Rovena> Don't givr my mother one. She had a brown thumb. Only plant she ever had grow was one she didn't want. 16[2019-06-25 20:57:26]  my own back yard is my nemeton and I have most of the plants and trees of the Ogham 16[2019-06-25 20:57:40]  Nice! 16[2019-06-25 20:57:47] <@Rovena> Cool! 16[2019-06-25 20:57:55]  It has taken quite a few years 25[2019-06-25 20:58:36] * darchildre (darchildre@sorcery-e0n0sa.krl.org) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 20:58:49]  Some, like Hawthorn, are considered pest plants because they are introduced and not native to here 27[2019-06-25 20:58:49] * darchildre (darchildre@sorcery-e0n0sa.krl.org) has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 16[2019-06-25 20:58:54] <@Rovena> Hello Darchildre 16[2019-06-25 20:59:11]  popped in and out :) 16[2019-06-25 20:59:27] <@Rovena> I am a slow typist 16[2019-06-25 20:59:39]  hehe 16[2019-06-25 20:59:58]  same, just a couple of fingers doing all the work 16[2019-06-25 21:00:01] <@Rovena> An orchid in a rose garden is a weed. 16[2019-06-25 21:01:10]  "Weed (noun): a plant growing where it is not wanted." 16[2019-06-25 21:04:49]  I must go, but this was a great way to start my day 16[2019-06-25 21:04:55]  Bye evryone 16[2019-06-25 21:05:01]  Ta! 16[2019-06-25 21:05:04] <@Rovena> Glad to get you off to a good start 27[2019-06-25 21:05:11] * ShazCairns (ShazCairns@sorcery-noir40.optusnet.com.au) has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 18[2019-06-25 21:09:53] <@Rovena> Owlhawk, I just forwarded you an email from the dedicant forum about problems signing in for chat from a Mac user. 16[2019-06-25 21:14:56] <@Rovena> So what do y'all want to talk about? 16[2019-06-25 21:17:35]  Hmm. 16[2019-06-25 21:18:01]  Sorry if I'm quiet. Bouncing between here and various projects, though all ADF-related tonight. 16[2019-06-25 21:18:33]  The Bardic Guild set a wide net with this month's challenge: "the Hellenic Hearth" 27[2019-06-25 21:18:41] * @Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) has quit IRC (Connection closed) 25[2019-06-25 21:18:47] * Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) joins #adf 29[2019-06-25 21:18:57] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Rovena 16[2019-06-25 21:18:59]  Tough to narrow down to just one aspect to write about. 16[2019-06-25 21:19:15]  What's the challenge? Have to write something about some aspect of Hellenism? 16[2019-06-25 21:21:10]  Right, it's just a inspiration to get us started. Can be a story, poem, song, essay, whatever comes through. 16[2019-06-25 21:22:25] <@Rovena> Interesting challenge 16[2019-06-25 21:22:38]  And, yes, it is a notably wide net. 16[2019-06-25 21:23:03]  I'm leaning toward a discussion of "trade" as a spiritual theme in that hearth, something I've studied at Hermes' request. 16[2019-06-25 21:23:19]  Certainly sounds appropriate! 16[2019-06-25 21:23:45]  Even tricky to narrow that down further, so it's not scattershot 16[2019-06-25 21:25:19]  And contrasting trade vs. selling vs. gift exchange vs. extortion 16[2019-06-25 21:28:27] <@Rovena> Talk to y'all next time. Be safe til then. 21[2019-06-25 21:28:32] <@Owlhawk> I answered her Rovena. good night 27[2019-06-25 21:28:33] * @Rovena (rovena@sorcery-3dfoqr.hnremote.net) has quit IRC (Quit: ) 16[2019-06-25 21:28:34]  have a good night 16[2019-06-25 21:46:23]  heading off, be well all 27[2019-06-25 21:46:30] * NathanLarge (NathanLarge@sorcery-j83dm6.res.rr.com) has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 25[2019-06-25 22:23:38] * Kerawun (Craiggoei@sorcery-k7t.s80.243.207.IP) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 22:24:03]  Evening all :) 16[2019-06-25 22:24:20]  Hello! 16[2019-06-25 22:25:51]  How's things? 16[2019-06-25 22:26:48]  Pretty good! My garden is happy and I cooked food well in advance of crashing into non-functionality. You? 16[2019-06-25 22:27:03]  Nice! 16[2019-06-25 22:27:20]  Doing well, traveling for work so I'm cooped up in a hotel room tonight 16[2019-06-25 22:27:39]  Once of these days we will tame the jungle in our yard and get a garden going 16[2019-06-25 22:27:48]  That sucks. They give you decent pillows at least? 16[2019-06-25 22:28:15]  Oh yes. Enough of them that all but one end up on the floor by morning, lol 16[2019-06-25 22:28:37]  Sounds about right! 16[2019-06-25 22:30:04]  I have a nice long drive home tomorrow, so I'm going to listen to the DP mp3s I think. I feel like I need to start connecting with druidry again 16[2019-06-25 22:31:51]  Nice. Any ideas yet or are you hoping for some inspiration from the DP stuff? 16[2019-06-25 22:37:44]  Just a general getting back to basics 16[2019-06-25 22:39:36]  I've been working on my health, and it makes me realize how far out of whack I've gotten, spiritually 16[2019-06-25 22:39:52]  Makes sense 16[2019-06-25 22:40:42]  What do you grow in the garden? 16[2019-06-25 22:41:33]  Last year we got a monthly box thing from one of the local farms, you never knew what was going to be in it...it was a blast :) 16[2019-06-25 22:42:37]  This year: sunflowers, radishes, a giant and growing watermelon plant, mugwort, a Chinese five color pepper, a poblano pepper, couple of tiiiiiny baby strawberries, and a black raspberry bush that volunteered against the garage. And what is either a marsh mallow or common mallow. 16[2019-06-25 22:43:13]  nice! 16[2019-06-25 22:43:28]  I looooooove poblanos 16[2019-06-25 22:43:47]  There was a plant sale at a local farm that gives all their produce to a food bank, so I.... did not really try to control my urges. 16[2019-06-25 22:44:15]  Super cheap healthy young plants for a good cause? Oh yes 16[2019-06-25 22:44:19]  That's a good obsession to have! 16[2019-06-25 22:45:27]  Keeps me tied to the seasons, so I don't just dissociate away whole years at a time without noticing. Oh! And some dwarf irises and a coneflower. But I got those more recently. 16[2019-06-25 22:45:47]  That's a great way to keep in touch, I like it 16[2019-06-25 22:46:00]  And a prickly pear that's making its first prickles. 16[2019-06-25 22:46:14]  https://i.imgur.com/jW4fZiM.jpg 16[2019-06-25 22:46:57]  I love that moment when they first pop out 16[2019-06-25 22:47:14]  It’s so cute ;_; 16[2019-06-25 22:47:31]  The last place we lived, my wife had quite a few of those hanging planters with peppers, tomatoes, etc 16[2019-06-25 22:47:41]  I snagged a fruit off a neighbor's well established plant and one of the seeds clearly survived the squirrel investigation. 16[2019-06-25 22:47:52]  Oh hell yes those are cool 16[2019-06-25 22:48:08]  When she started them on the window sill the first time, it was so amazing to see them popping out...I didn't quite believe it was really going to happen 16[2019-06-25 22:48:41]  Nothing like making breakfast and going out and grabbing some veggies off the vine 16[2019-06-25 22:48:51]  Oh for real 16[2019-06-25 22:49:28]  I had green bell peppers last year and those are like my fav veggie. The cucumber was a violent little cuss but the fruits were good! 16[2019-06-25 22:52:15]  We were just starting to get some stuff growing on the ground...zucchinis, tomatillos I think, when we had to move :( 16[2019-06-25 22:52:22]  I hope the next tenants appreciated them 16[2019-06-25 22:53:01]  I bet they did. I had a neighbor once leave me her purple sage when she moved and I loved it. 16[2019-06-25 22:54:49]  That's crazy, it's barely out of the dirt and the prickly part is already starting 16[2019-06-25 22:55:02]  That seems like something that would develop later 16[2019-06-25 22:55:20]  Yeah it was a surprise. An adorable thorny surprise. 16[2019-06-25 22:55:36]  lol 16[2019-06-25 22:55:48]  Makes sense, protection-wise 16[2019-06-25 22:55:54]  So teeny tiny but it's fierce and ready! Nobody's going to catch this one unguarded! 16[2019-06-25 22:56:53]  Like those baby tiger videos of them attacking their dad 16[2019-06-25 22:57:04]  Yes! Exactly. 25[2019-06-25 22:57:11] * Treewalker (Android@sorcery-k60.hg5.103.172.IP) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 22:57:16]  Eensy baby plant spoiling for a fight 16[2019-06-25 22:59:22]  hi Treewalker 16[2019-06-25 23:01:02]  Hello Kerawun! 16[2019-06-25 23:01:41]  How is everyone? 16[2019-06-25 23:05:00]  Great here, how's you? 16[2019-06-25 23:08:08]  Doing good. my group did our first adf ceremony for the solstice. 16[2019-06-25 23:08:22]  Oh nice 16[2019-06-25 23:08:57]  Yes. it was 4 of us lol, so a small start. but a start! 27[2019-06-25 23:09:45] * StarQuake (Sol@sorcery-uuu.nij.54.208.IP) has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 25[2019-06-25 23:10:29] * StarQuake (Sol@sorcery-uuu.nij.54.208.IP) joins #adf 16[2019-06-25 23:13:16]  That's awesome 27[2019-06-25 23:26:44] * StarQuake (Sol@sorcery-uuu.nij.54.208.IP) has quit IRC (Connection closed) 16[2019-06-25 23:27:09]  Think I'm going to hit the hay. Have a great night all 16[2019-06-25 23:27:18]  night K! 16[2019-06-25 23:27:23]  Good night! 27[2019-06-25 23:28:41] * Kerawun (Craiggoei@sorcery-k7t.s80.243.207.IP) has quit IRC (Quit: )