Session Start: Tue May 28 19:07:35 2019
Session Ident: #adf
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28[2019-05-28 19:07:35] * Topic is: Welcome to the chat for Ár nDraíocht Féin: A Druid Fellowship (ADF). Find out more about us at http://www.adf.org
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29[2019-05-28 19:07:36] * #adf created on Fri May 24 18:37:54 2019
16[2019-05-28 19:41:07] <Mouse> Hi!
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16[2019-05-28 19:46:17] <Mouse> Hi, Rovena!
16[2019-05-28 19:46:32] <@Rovena> Hello Mouse!
16[2019-05-28 19:46:37] <@Rovena> How are you tonight?
16[2019-05-28 19:47:29] <Mouse> I'm doing pretty well, actually.  We - my wife and I - just finished the mundane part of getting new a Bridgit shrine ready for consecration at Three Rivers.
16[2019-05-28 19:47:53] <Mouse> It took longer and cost more, of course, but the result is pretty awesome.
16[2019-05-28 19:48:06] <@Rovena> Cool!
16[2019-05-28 19:48:15] <@Rovena> Things always take longer and cost more
16[2019-05-28 19:48:24] <Mouse> (Well, we didn't do all of it.  We had help, a professional sculptor doing the bust and someone else doing most of the masonry.)
16[2019-05-28 19:48:49] <@Rovena> Did I see a picture of the sculpture on FAcebook?
16[2019-05-28 19:48:56] <Mouse> Quite likely.
16[2019-05-28 19:50:00] <@Rovena> It was impressive
16[2019-05-28 19:50:21] <Mouse> Well, the pedestal for it has now been built and the bust installed on it.
16[2019-05-28 19:50:39] <Mouse> And, yes, it is a pretty impressive bust. ^_^
21[2019-05-28 19:54:07] <@Owlhawk> I'm sorry that we can't be there for Three Rivers
16[2019-05-28 19:54:26] <Mouse> Not to worry.  It happens.  
21[2019-05-28 19:55:00] <@Owlhawk> it'll be an ongoing problem for us. My job just doesn't  make it feasible anymore to attend
16[2019-05-28 19:55:26] <Mouse> Life does have a tendency to get in the way
18[2019-05-28 19:56:52] <@Rovena> Owlhawk, I may have some quetions for you later. My grove has decided they would like to do a Hellenic ritual for 9/21. 
21[2019-05-28 19:57:35] <@Owlhawk> ok. Thexalon is good for those as well, as is Rob Henderson and Jan Avende
16[2019-05-28 19:58:04] <@Rovena> Cool. Thanks. 
21[2019-05-28 20:00:36] <@Owlhawk> Oh, and Missy Ashton is good as well
16[2019-05-28 20:02:18] <@Rovena> The more the merrier. I want the grove to understand what they are doing, how it is different from our usual (Heathen/Celtic), and jsut take it seriously. 
16[2019-05-28 20:04:06] <@Rovena> So, how ws everyone's weekend?
16[2019-05-28 20:04:29] <Mouse> Aside from that, my weekend went pretty well.  Saturday reassured me about our Irish class.
16[2019-05-28 20:05:17] <@Rovena> That's good.
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16[2019-05-28 20:07:12] <NathanLarge> Good evening, room
16[2019-05-28 20:07:17] <@Rovena> Hello Nathan
16[2019-05-28 20:07:24] <Mouse> Hi Nathan!
21[2019-05-28 20:07:47] <@Owlhawk> I now have a cat that will climb up on the kitchen table, via me, with claws, if necessary, anytime we have chicken for supper.....
21[2019-05-28 20:07:55] <@Owlhawk> we need to find a solution to this!
16[2019-05-28 20:08:27] <@Rovena> I like to use a spray bottle with cold water in it.
16[2019-05-28 20:08:35] <ConorWarren> Swords
16[2019-05-28 20:08:38] <@Rovena> Doesn't hurt them but they hate it
21[2019-05-28 20:08:40] <@Owlhawk> well he's climbing me?
16[2019-05-28 20:08:41] <Mouse> "No!  Not the cat-wetterizer!"
16[2019-05-28 20:08:54] <@Rovena> Yes, Mouse.
21[2019-05-28 20:09:00] <@Owlhawk> I don't like getting wet!
16[2019-05-28 20:09:20] <ConorWarren> SWORDS TAPED TO YOUR BODY
16[2019-05-28 20:09:32] <@Rovena> Use a small enough spray area and you shouldn't get wet. 
16[2019-05-28 20:09:50] <Mouse> Things such as razorwire might be ill-advised in a case like this, where the humans presumably feel positively towards the cat in general.
16[2019-05-28 20:09:56] <NathanLarge> Getting wet hasn't discouraged our cats from licking the bathtub grout.  They just wait until we leave the bathroom.
16[2019-05-28 20:10:00] <@Rovena> It usually doesn't take more than a couple of time
21[2019-05-28 20:10:01] <@Owlhawk> Conor, I like this cat, I don't want to kill him!
16[2019-05-28 20:10:15] <ConorWarren> I love my dog but I know every box of cheez-its is a potential fight to the death
16[2019-05-28 20:10:27] <@Rovena> CAnned air often works, too
21[2019-05-28 20:10:27] <@Owlhawk> I've been putting a few pieces of chicken on a plate and setting that down for him, seems to work ok
16[2019-05-28 20:10:46] <NathanLarge> The appeasement solution
21[2019-05-28 20:10:47] <@Owlhawk> I have canned air! At least a cannister or 6!
16[2019-05-28 20:11:12] <NathanLarge> But unfortunately, once you give in, untraining is that much harder
16[2019-05-28 20:11:16] <ConorWarren> If cats are anything like dogs you are legitimating the behavior with that.
21[2019-05-28 20:11:20] <@Owlhawk> I've been well trained in the appeasement solution by pets since at least 1974
21[2019-05-28 20:11:43] <@Owlhawk> !!!!!
21[2019-05-28 20:12:08] <@Owlhawk> Tiny the poodle got all kinds of things off my highchair!
16[2019-05-28 20:12:43] <NathanLarge> I haven't eaten dry cereal in years, but I used to give my cat my leftover milk when he was a kitten.  The one time my wife had a bowl of cereal, he was going berzerk.  THEY REMEMBER.
21[2019-05-28 20:13:25] <@Owlhawk> my wife puts milk down for them. 
21[2019-05-28 20:14:07] <@Owlhawk> For those who don't know, we recently, about a month or so ago, acquired a 6 yr old Bengal Cat. My wife and I are still getting him used to living with us. 
16[2019-05-28 20:14:32] <ConorWarren> Well, it is always nice to have someone else move in who can help with bills
21[2019-05-28 20:15:38] <@Owlhawk> it would be wonderful if he came with a monthly cheque instead of a 4 am olympics race and meowing fight around the house!
16[2019-05-28 20:16:04] <ConorWarren> He is prepping for a job interview, gosh, give him room to live his truth and work for Viacom
16[2019-05-28 20:16:23] <ConorWarren> I just assume Viacom is where a cat would want to work
16[2019-05-28 20:16:31] <Mouse> "Why did the epistemologist cross the road?"  "I don't know."
21[2019-05-28 20:16:36] <@Owlhawk> What's Viacom?
16[2019-05-28 20:17:40] <ConorWarren> Mass Media corporation
16[2019-05-28 20:18:12] <ConorWarren> I think they own Comedy Central, Nickoledeon and some other stuff?
21[2019-05-28 20:18:29] <@Owlhawk> ok....Canadian here....never heard of 'em
16[2019-05-28 20:18:44] <ConorWarren> I'm sure y'all get some of their programs
21[2019-05-28 20:18:49] <@Owlhawk> Lost me on that one Mouse
16[2019-05-28 20:18:56] <NathanLarge> "Why did the ontologist cross the road?"  "... are you sure there IS a road?"
16[2019-05-28 20:19:03] <ConorWarren> NO
16[2019-05-28 20:19:04] <Mouse> :)
16[2019-05-28 20:19:17] <ConorWarren> These are dad theologian jokes
21[2019-05-28 20:19:32] <@Owlhawk> ah. ok. I'll just ignore them then. Thanks,
21[2019-05-28 20:19:51] <@Owlhawk> I don't watch much tv. Blondie refuses to turn off her cooking shows
21[2019-05-28 20:19:59] <@Owlhawk> +
16[2019-05-28 20:20:05] <ConorWarren> MASTERCHEF?!
16[2019-05-28 20:20:10] <NathanLarge> please, philosophy.  Theology is philosophy with cheat codes.
16[2019-05-28 20:20:20] <ConorWarren> I strongly disagree!
16[2019-05-28 20:20:20] <Mouse> :)
21[2019-05-28 20:21:06] <@Owlhawk> She currently has 4 cooking channels!
16[2019-05-28 20:21:41] <ConorWarren> I feel like philosophy and theology are cousins who admire and rival one another. Where would modern philosophy be without Aquinas? And where would modern theology be without Derrida, Foucault, etc?
16[2019-05-28 20:21:56] <Mouse> But I agree, these are more philosophy and philology than theology.
21[2019-05-28 20:21:57] <@Owlhawk> and it should probably be noted, that Mouse knows me in person and we have sat together at fest quite a few times
16[2019-05-28 20:22:18] <ConorWarren> Epistemology and ontology are huge parts of theology though
21[2019-05-28 20:22:25] <@Owlhawk> I defer all Philosophy questions to Doctor Brendan Myers
16[2019-05-28 20:22:36] <ConorWarren> What's the fun in that?!
21[2019-05-28 20:22:49] <@Owlhawk> He's pagan, and a mazer
16[2019-05-28 20:22:55] <ConorWarren> It certainly wont help me get ideas together for a Doctorate :P
16[2019-05-28 20:23:01] <ConorWarren> Oh, I know who he is
16[2019-05-28 20:23:17] <ConorWarren> I've been in the community for awhile, I just had to go on a bit of a break back in 2015
21[2019-05-28 20:23:18] <@Owlhawk> I have most of his books
16[2019-05-28 20:23:35] <Mouse> Philosophy isn't _all_ about trying to address the Hard Questions.  Sometimes it's just about having fun. :)
21[2019-05-28 20:23:38] <@Owlhawk> ah. ok. just out of curiousity, what do you consider awhile
21[2019-05-28 20:23:50] <@Owlhawk> ?]
16[2019-05-28 20:24:03] <ConorWarren> Erf, I think I was out of the loop for three years or so
21[2019-05-28 20:24:15] <@Owlhawk> and I'm shocked that no one asked what a mazer was
16[2019-05-28 20:24:23] <Mouse> Okay, what's a mazer? :)
21[2019-05-28 20:24:24] <@Owlhawk> 3 years....ok then.
21[2019-05-28 20:24:33] <@Owlhawk> You know! or you should!
18[2019-05-28 20:24:53] <Mouse> ConnorWarren, I think Owlhawk was more interested in how long you've been around the community altogether than in how long you'd been on hiatus.
16[2019-05-28 20:25:01] <Mouse> Well, if you want someone to ask... :)
16[2019-05-28 20:25:03] <ConorWarren> Oh, about 7 years
16[2019-05-28 20:25:08] <ConorWarren> I'm only 25 though
21[2019-05-28 20:25:08] <@Owlhawk> kina both....
16[2019-05-28 20:25:36] <ConorWarren> I'm a youngun' !
21[2019-05-28 20:25:38] <@Owlhawk> lolol....ok, a mazer is a mead maker, but don't bet that I spelled it right, although I think I dis
21[2019-05-28 20:25:42] <@Owlhawk> yes you are.
16[2019-05-28 20:25:49] <NathanLarge> I just figure I'll pick up from context clues.
21[2019-05-28 20:25:49] <@Owlhawk> I startedin about 
21[2019-05-28 20:26:03] <@Owlhawk> 1992. It was the Ferryman's brother's fault!
21[2019-05-28 20:26:16] <@Owlhawk> andn I know that Rovena started earlier then that.
16[2019-05-28 20:26:25] <ConorWarren> That was a year before I was born! I don't know about these Ferryman brothers
21[2019-05-28 20:26:45] <@Owlhawk> the Ferryman is somewhat of an Ontario Pagan legend
21[2019-05-28 20:26:57] <@Owlhawk> and an ADF member!
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16[2019-05-28 20:27:21] <Mouse> Heh.  I'm old enough (turning 55 this summer), but it actually took until about the turn of the millennium before I found that the nonphysical held any reality for me.
21[2019-05-28 20:27:22] <@Owlhawk> and wow, way to make me feel old!
16[2019-05-28 20:27:37] <Star> Evening
16[2019-05-28 20:27:37] <Mouse> So I haven't been around all _that_ long, for all that I'm old(ish) in another sense.
21[2019-05-28 20:27:41] <@Owlhawk> Hello
16[2019-05-28 20:27:42] <Mouse> Hi Star!
21[2019-05-28 20:27:45] <@Owlhawk> Star
16[2019-05-28 20:28:21] <ConorWarren> Lordy, y'all making me feel inexperienced over here. I'll just listen and make soup out of your experiences
21[2019-05-28 20:28:35] <@Owlhawk> A few fests ago a friend of mine told me that 25 years plus in your tradtion makes you an elder.....I almost cut him off from mead for the rest of KG!
21[2019-05-28 20:28:59] <@Owlhawk> Conor, keep asking questions, that's the core of wisdom
16[2019-05-28 20:29:23] <@Rovena> Definitely
16[2019-05-28 20:29:29] <ConorWarren> I'm very mouthy, so sometimes for me shutting up is the better part of wisdom
16[2019-05-28 20:29:57] <ConorWarren> I do care conversations and those are very easy to shut up and listen for, but these informal settings where I have these opportunities, I tend to mouth off a lot. I'd like to fix that
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21[2019-05-28 20:30:17] <@Owlhawk> if you get too mouthy for us, we will let you know.....just know that it's kinda hard to do....the only two banned accounts on this channel are both bot accounts
16[2019-05-28 20:30:18] <Mouse> Have you meditated on why you do it?
16[2019-05-28 20:30:28] <ConorWarren> Oh, of course
16[2019-05-28 20:30:33] <ConorWarren> I want to know and be known
16[2019-05-28 20:30:33] <Star> I always feel inexperienced even in the things I know fairly well but when I was just starting out I was told that if you stop learning is the day you die but even then you learn so :shrug:
16[2019-05-28 20:30:42] <Star> Hi StarQuake
16[2019-05-28 20:31:10] <StarQuake> Hello, I just popped on I am in the middle of something so I won’t be able to talk but I will still be on
16[2019-05-28 20:31:31] <StarQuake> I have to go, I’ll be able to check my screen in a 20-30 mins
16[2019-05-28 20:31:32] <ConorWarren> Howdy! I'm drinking beer, making rice, and playing Life is Strange 2, so no problems!
16[2019-05-28 20:31:38] <@Rovena> No problem
21[2019-05-28 20:31:39] <@Owlhawk> And Conor, I'm the one that banned both of them. I don't ban accounts of people that are honest in their seeking. Indeed, I encourage them to ask the difficult questions. 
16[2019-05-28 20:31:40] <NathanLarge> I know that feeling.  I tend to overshare because I want to contribute something, then it comes off as intrusive.
16[2019-05-28 20:31:44] <Mouse> (Also, just because I've been knocking around for 19 years doesn't mean I have 19 years of experience, whatever that may mean.  Most of that time I was...well, "nonpracticing solitaire" comes pretty close.)
16[2019-05-28 20:32:27] <ConorWarren> John Beckett always told me that its better to have 3 years of experience than 1 year of experience three times
21[2019-05-28 20:32:33] <@Owlhawk> I don't forsee anymore bannings, just to reassure folks. so, ask the tough questions, like why are hamburgers so good!!!
16[2019-05-28 20:32:36] <NathanLarge> And I was about to say... I keep changing "traditions", so I'll probably never get to 25.  Add them together, though, and I've only got 3 years to go.
21[2019-05-28 20:32:47] <@Owlhawk> lol
16[2019-05-28 20:34:36] <Star> Did anyone go to Wellspring
16[2019-05-28 20:34:46] <ConorWarren> I wish :/
16[2019-05-28 20:35:27] <ConorWarren> I really wanna go to BTG but I'm not gonna be able to do it unless I can snag a cabin. My meds make me "run hot" so overheating happens really quick in the summer
16[2019-05-28 20:35:28] <Star> Yeah I had to work Thursday, Saturday and sunday
16[2019-05-28 20:35:53] <Star> wait... what's BTG?
16[2019-05-28 20:36:08] <ConorWarren> Sorry, meant BTW
16[2019-05-28 20:36:12] <ConorWarren> Between The Worlds
16[2019-05-28 20:36:33] <ConorWarren> It happens in my backyard practically, HA! Only like a couple hour drive I think?
16[2019-05-28 20:36:54] <Star> I was gonna say I thought that's what you might have meant
16[2019-05-28 20:37:02] <ConorWarren> SHIT
16[2019-05-28 20:37:06] <ConorWarren> I meant Beyond the Gates
16[2019-05-28 20:37:16] <Star> I'm lost...
16[2019-05-28 20:37:20] <ConorWarren> Haha, my brain is so fried. Finals week!
16[2019-05-28 20:37:28] <ConorWarren> https://beyondgates.weebly.com/
16[2019-05-28 20:37:41] <Star> ick
16[2019-05-28 20:37:43] <Star> sorry
16[2019-05-28 20:41:03] <ConorWarren> All part of the package! Also, looks like no cabins at this one and the only non-tent space is at the Buddhist stuff which doesn't allow booze or sexual stuff :V So, probably not doing that. My partner might not go with me but I'm still a young guy so over the course of several days some sort of stimulation is going to happen. Them's the breaks!
21[2019-05-28 20:42:16] <@Owlhawk> it appears that our neighbours have a new puppy!
16[2019-05-28 20:42:53] <@Rovena> Hope they are good fur parents
21[2019-05-28 20:43:27] <@Owlhawk> Yes they are. Blondie has an open invite to come over and play with the fur children
16[2019-05-28 20:43:51] <ConorWarren> What kind of dog?!
21[2019-05-28 20:44:04] <@Owlhawk> Mix breed. I lost track of the list
16[2019-05-28 20:44:15] <ConorWarren> Hybrid vigour!
21[2019-05-28 20:44:17] <@Owlhawk> too busy petting
21[2019-05-28 20:44:30] <@Owlhawk> and blocking from face licking!
16[2019-05-28 20:44:50] <@Rovena> That's a puppy for you!
16[2019-05-28 20:45:08] <ConorWarren> Doggos can lick my face, my eyeballs, steal my credit card info, whatever they want!
21[2019-05-28 20:46:53] <@Owlhawk> neighbours have two, and a cat.
21[2019-05-28 20:47:24] <@Owlhawk> and it's a very young puppy, 12 weeks at most, but it's big
16[2019-05-28 20:51:25] <ConorWarren> Is it housebroken?
21[2019-05-28 20:52:19] <@Owlhawk> no idea. didn't ask. too busy petting and talking other issues with her
16[2019-05-28 20:52:29] <ConorWarren> I got my pup at 12 weeks and had her housebroken by the time she was about 15 weeks. You just have to have an iron will and be able to tolerate their whimpering and sadness
21[2019-05-28 20:53:03] <@Owlhawk> she's a nurse, and at one point was my wife's at home nurse. so we have more serious issues to discuss
16[2019-05-28 20:53:38] <ConorWarren> Eh, housebreaking is serious. A lot of times it is the difference between a dog that dies at home and a dog that dies in a pound, sad to say.
16[2019-05-28 20:54:29] <ConorWarren> Maybe not cancer serious, but still more serious than most folks think
16[2019-05-28 20:56:43] <Star> Well I'm out good night all :)
16[2019-05-28 20:56:58] <Mouse> G'night Star!
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16[2019-05-28 20:57:12] <ConorWarren> Sleep well!
21[2019-05-28 21:00:05] <@Owlhawk> it's not an issue with them. the older puppy is 2 years old
16[2019-05-28 21:03:26] <ConorWarren> Oh, I wasn't trying to imply they were doing anything wrong per se. I just get tunnel vision when it comes to pups. I've seen a lot of unneeded suffering so, my first instincts are to say "how are they doing?"
16[2019-05-28 21:06:53] <NathanLarge> I'm going to log, as well.  Be well, all.
16[2019-05-28 21:07:05] <ConorWarren> Be well
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21[2019-05-28 21:08:15] <@Owlhawk> anyone still here?
16[2019-05-28 21:08:22] <Mouse> ...me...
16[2019-05-28 21:08:39] <@Rovena> me
16[2019-05-28 21:08:55] <ConorWarren> SHALOM
16[2019-05-28 21:09:32] <@Rovena> Are you saying hello or goodbye or blessing us?
16[2019-05-28 21:09:38] <ConorWarren> Yes
16[2019-05-28 21:10:13] <ConorWarren> I was thinking about wedding stuff for me and my partner, long story short I watched like 97 Jewish wedding videos in a row
16[2019-05-28 21:10:28] <ConorWarren> So, Hava Nagila is playing in my head constantly this week
16[2019-05-28 21:10:29] <@Rovena> That is a lot
16[2019-05-28 21:10:49] <ConorWarren> I'm from Texas, we're found of artistic exaggeration
16[2019-05-28 21:10:56] <ConorWarren> *fond
16[2019-05-28 21:11:19] <ConorWarren> Hava naglia
16[2019-05-28 21:11:48] <ConorWarren> hava nagila hava naglia hava venis mecha
16[2019-05-28 21:12:07] <ConorWarren> hava neranana hava neranana havaneranana venis mecha
16[2019-05-28 21:12:30] <ConorWarren> uru uru achim
16[2019-05-28 21:12:58] <ConorWarren> And I don't remember anything else. I miss my Jewish friends in Texas
16[2019-05-28 21:13:09] <ConorWarren> Oregon is just a different place.
16[2019-05-28 21:15:36] <@Rovena> Adjusting to a new culture can be difficult
16[2019-05-28 21:19:33] <ConorWarren> Yeah, if only some of my fellows would understand that
16[2019-05-28 21:19:43] <@Rovena> Hubby needs help so I will bid you all a goodnight til next time
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21[2019-05-28 21:29:35] <@Owlhawk> ok, mom finally hung up, so I'm back
16[2019-05-28 21:37:34] <StarQuake> Sorry I have to head out night
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21[2019-05-28 21:46:29] <@Owlhawk> ok, good night folks