*** Opened channel log for #ADF at 14/10/2014 6:14:31 PM [19:48] *** rovena (Mibbit@14055b31.6ca5ec7e.174.33.imsk) has joined #ADF [19:49] *** rovena is now known as Guest56765 [19:51] *** Guest56765 (Mibbit@14055b31.6ca5ec7e.174.33.imsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [19:52] *** rovena (Mibbit@14055b31.6ca5ec7e.174.33.imsk) has joined #ADF [19:52] *** Mode change [+o rovena] on #ADF by ChanServ [19:56] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@6e188568.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [19:56] hello! [19:56] Hello [19:57] How are you tonight? [19:58] I'm doing ok, slightly frustrated but ok :) [19:58] how are you? [19:58] *** Victoria-Leona (Mibbit@6ca5f082.6ca5ed20.38.111.imsk) has joined #ADF [19:58] evening [19:59] Hello Victoria [19:59] Sorry you are frustrated, Sara [19:59] [Owlhawk] hello [19:59] good to see you all [20:00] I'm a yo-yo. I've been added and deleted from a email list twice in 3 hrs [20:00] meh it happens! I'm having to put in about 100 paypal fees on a 100 different transactioncs, good thing I've perked up a bit since work :) [20:00] I think it was having script issues right? [20:01] Yes Love computers [20:02] I think it's a bit of a love/hate thing with computers :) [20:02] [Owlhawk] they're just giant calculators [20:02] *** William (Mibbit@80e9c437.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:02] [Owlhawk] they can't even subtract [20:03] Hello William [20:03] computers....so useful and so frustrating! [20:04] Hello Rovena [20:05] How are you tonight? [20:06] good and you [20:06] Enjoying the cool weather [20:07] it's raining pretty good here tonight [20:07] warm here [20:07] *** Aisslinn (Mibbit@cd5011fd.dr02.ckvl.tn.7e44e9fb.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:07] [Owlhawk] The nice thing about rain, is it doesn't need to be shoveled [20:07] Hello everyone. How are you doing tonight? [20:08] Hello Aisslinn [20:08] lol true Owlhawk [20:08] When it is coming in the door, you wish it could be shoveled [20:08] I am so happy to make it tonight. This semester I have class until 9pm so by the time i make it home I am beat. [20:08] rain would be nice here [20:08] oh .. those are long days Asslinn [20:09] ahh I remember those days [20:09] (and I can't seem to type ... sorry) [20:09] yeah, yeah.... [20:09] I do not miss snow or cold [20:09] hee hee [20:09] I miss cool [20:09] Oh me either, yet surprisingly I have been contemplating moving to Canada after graduation. [20:09] Neither do I but I do miss the leaves turning colors [20:09] it's been super hot here lately [20:10] [Owlhawk] I made an appointment today to put the winter tires on the car today... [20:10] it's been in the 90s again [20:10] They are even sold here [20:10] qrne't [20:11] so I know that winter tires are a thing ... but I don't really know what makes them different :) [20:12] [Owlhawk] the rubber is a different compound, makes them stickier and the tread pattern is different then summers [20:12] [Owlhawk] makes traction much better in snow and ice [20:13] ohh [20:13] At least we are educational chat [20:13] that sounds useful if you live where it snows [20:14] indeed! [20:14] [Owlhawk] This is actually only the second year I've used winter tires on my car, last year being the first. I've generally not needed them given how much winter driving I've done over the years. [20:14] [Owlhawk] I've found all season tires just fine until last winter. [20:15] so is everyone prepping for Samhain? [20:16] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [20:16] Yes. Very much [20:16] hi everyone [20:16] [Owlhawk] There is apparently a party Nov 1 at a local pagan's house...seems a good way to celebrate Samhain to me... [20:16] Hello Trent [20:17] I'm really feeling the pull of my ancestors this year, my Gram is heavy on my mind even more this fall. [20:17] [Owlhawk] And my sister is planning a dinner and ritual. We'll see if that one happens [20:18] I am hosting a Samahin ritual at the local UU church. I am actually really excited because there are several people expressing interest [20:18] Excellent. Good luck with the new people [20:18] Cool Aisslin [20:19] I'm not sure what I'm doing .. might join my grove for ritual, otherwise just stay home and try to recover. [20:19] Thank you. I just hosted a Rite of Purification there last month and had one new person. It went swimingly and everyone really seemed to enjoy theirselves [20:19] i don't know what im doing for samhain either [20:19] [Owlhawk] congrats. [20:19] i did manage to make it to an ADF grove finally [20:19] for Mabon [20:20] [Owlhawk] good. how'd you find it? [20:20] cool .. how did that go? [20:20] it was nice :) [20:20] 3 hours away from me...Protogrove of the Valley Oak [20:20] I am also planning a week worth of personal devotions and reflections on the Ancient Wise prior to the Samhain ritual [20:20] Great idea [20:20] Trent that is great news. [20:21] i am not sure I want to drive all that way for every one of the holidays :) but ill probably go back at some point [20:21] oh Trent, that's funny .. that's my grove :) [20:21] which direction are you in? [20:21] there's also the other grove that's equally far away from me [20:21] oh wow [20:22] heh, yeah Kevin said that there were more people that weren't there that time [20:22] i live in san luis obispo [20:22] ah cool [20:22] I haven't made it out in a few high days ... been working 80-100 hr weeks and it's kicking my tush [20:22] so i end up having to wake up early and drive [20:22] but then i can come home that same day [20:23] that's pretty cool .. a long day but nice [20:23] [Owlhawk] having worked those kinds of hours, I urge you to stop working them voluntarily, before you stop working them involuntarily... [20:24] I've been down to Passo Robles a few times, but never San Luis Obispo [20:24] yeah .. we had a major crunch for a project, including not having enough people .. we now have more people and I'm going on vacation next Wed [20:24] awesome [20:25] i've been to paso robles once or twice [20:25] i usually don't go up to north county really [20:25] apparently there's a Safari in Santa Rosa [20:25] I enjoy Paso .. but I also enjoy wine :) [20:25] heh [20:26] my first trip down was for a wine tasting event .. we got to see how the vines were grown and harvested and walk through the vineyards. It was pretty cool [20:26] my boss took me to a vinyard once [20:26] though im mostly not into that sort of thing really [20:27] :) [20:28] my wife and i do like to go to outdoors things around here [20:28] we go to beaches a lot [20:28] there is also this really nice hot tub place [20:29] hot tubs on a mountainside, you rent them for an hour or so [20:29] Sounds cool [20:29] ohhhhh [20:30] yeah basically :) [20:34] now I'm thinking about a hot tub on a mountainside ..... [20:34] heh [20:39] *** ErinPicard (Mibbit@6ca5ecc1.14055ad5.70.51.imsk) has joined #ADF [20:39] hurray [20:39] cat is sitting on the top step of the puppy stairs so the dog can't get on the bed [20:39] So is anyone currently working on reading anything interesting? [20:39] lol rovena [20:40] I just got The Deities Are Many, by Jordan Paper [20:40] [Owlhawk] good book [20:40] I'm hoping to read that soon [20:40] Oh how is that book? [20:40] [Owlhawk] It's an excellent read. [20:41] wonderful I will have to add it to my ever growing to-read list [20:41] i bought my mom a Chatelaine magazine the other day with recepies , and it had tips for a "fuss free dinner party" - the first tip was "hire a caterer"! lol [20:41] [Owlhawk] goes well with this one. http://www.amazon.com/World-Full-Gods-Inquiry-Polytheism/dp/0976568101/ref=pd_sim_b_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=16BWCHET21ETF3C831FC [20:42] [Owlhawk] I have, and have read, both of them. [20:43] I have been meaning to read a world full of gods. I am currently reading Comperative Mythology. My last book order just arrived: A History of Pagan Europe, New Comparitive Mythology, and Deep Ancestors [20:43] sorry to interject. i thought it was pretty funny [20:43] [Owlhawk] it is a good one Erin [20:43] I've read A World Full of Gods, it's a good one [20:43] funny is always good [20:44] [Owlhawk] I found the greer book to be more of a traditional theology book in that it examines the traditional questions of theology and attempts to answer them from a pagan point of view [20:44] I like that idea Erin! :) [20:44] :) [20:45] we got a chuckle out of it. [20:45] Oh how interesting. I am love reading book specifically concerning theology and liturgy [20:45] gotta go pick up my wife, be back in a little bit [20:46] [Owlhawk] have fun [20:46] ah .. sorry .. work just bit [20:46] make sure you bite back :) [20:46] Ok, well drive carefully [20:46] Hubby is upset because he is flipping between KC baseball & NCIS and they both are having their commercials at the same time [20:47] lol we got on ncis here too [20:47] [Owlhawk] The Leafs are playing....what else is needed on TV??? [20:47] I hear Owlhawk [20:48] aparantly the senators won last nigght in florida but there were no butts in the seats to see it [20:49] [Owlhawk] I saw a piece on sportsnet this morning [20:50] yes [20:51] Ok, well I hope that everyone has a wonderful night. I am off to do a little work on a few study programs that I am juggling. [20:51] night! [20:51] *** Aisslinn (Mibbit@cd5011fd.dr02.ckvl.tn.7e44e9fb.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:53] Good memory [20:53] k night guys :) ttyl [20:54] [Owlhawk] good night [20:54] *** ErinPicard (Mibbit@6ca5ecc1.14055ad5.70.51.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:58] So what do we want to talk about now? [20:59] *** William (Mibbit@80e9c437.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:59] *** William (Mibbit@80e9c437.lv.lv.6ca6b017.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:01] what else are people working on right now? I'm taking a break from study stuff....just doing my practice and relazing other than that [21:01] 2nd book review [21:02] great! [21:02] On the second chapter [21:02] yay! :) [21:03] *** SeanHarbaugh (Mibbit@14055a91.6ca5ed20.99.30.imsk) has joined #ADF [21:04] hi Sean! [21:04] Hello there! [21:04] [Owlhawk] hello [21:04] Hello Sean [21:04] howdy everyone! [21:05] what's up? [21:05] How did the competition go? [21:05] we came in 9th out of 42 teams [21:05] that's great! [21:05] Not bad [21:05] only 4 points separated 1st through 10th. It was a tight one. [21:06] wow [21:06] [Owlhawk] that is tight [21:06] Last one until next year. :( [21:06] Amazing [21:06] the competition season is over [21:06] Time to rest and plan [21:07] try and get some catering jobs. [21:07] [Owlhawk] you are too far away for how hungry you make me on a regular basis... [21:08] Second that [21:08] * Victoria-Leona waves at Sean [21:08] I know...I know [21:08] Victoria isn't [21:08] [Owlhawk] lucky Victoria [21:08] I'm not what? [21:09] Too far away to try my food. [21:09] Never leave yourself so open [21:09] lol [21:09] I know! but I have yet to do so ..... [21:09] true Rovena :) [21:09] I was even in San Jose last weekend. [21:09] [Owlhawk] You are very lucky...his Ribs are fantastic. [21:09] I know .. I was having folks around and we were in Half Moon Bay [21:10] nice [21:10] it was warm .. but lovely [21:10] So, we don't have anyone here from the Council of Wisdom? LOL!! [21:10] I heard that you did well :) [21:10] council of wisdom? [21:10] Snarkiest facebook reply I've ever done on our ADF wall. [21:11] lol apparently I missed that [21:11] ADF discussion group rather. [21:11] Owlhawk saw it [21:12] im back [21:12] [Owlhawk] I did. Really well done. And since the Council of Wisdom is secret, then no one can ever know if someone is from it is here.... [21:12] true! [21:12] council of wisdom, huh? [21:12] Welcome back Trent [21:13] Hush it is a secret [21:13] i always knew ADF had secret masters :-P [21:13] they do hold the secret Tome. [21:13] hail hydra? [21:13] lol [21:13] lmao [21:13] hee hee [21:13] [Owlhawk] Hail Mead! [21:13] right! [21:13] Hail to that! [21:13] well .. I have an opportunity to leave the office with only a 9 hr day .. so I'm going to take it! [21:13] might catch up with you later if you're still chatting when I get home [21:13] [Owlhawk] good. [21:13] tschus [21:13] run like the wind :) [21:14] *** Victoria-Leona (Mibbit@6ca5f082.6ca5ed20.38.111.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:14] nice chatting with you...aww she's gone [21:14] i guess she took my advice [21:15] It looks like I caught this chat on the tail end. [21:15] not really Sean [21:15] [Owlhawk] part way through [21:15] Ok. :) [21:15] I'm just working through a bazillion payal fee entries [21:15] Hopefully it is just part two [21:15] bleck [21:16] seriously [21:18] heh [21:18] uh yeah. we're getting our second wind now. [21:19] lol [21:19] I'm actually fairly surprised I'm still awake [21:19] *** Drum (Mibbit@14055acf.6ca5ecde.73.161.imsk) has joined #ADF [21:19] I always forget about that pesky time difference [21:19] it's sunset here. [21:19] *** Mode change [+o Drum] on #ADF by ChanServ [21:19] [Owlhawk] it is easy to forget about [21:19] [Owlhawk] hello Drum [21:19] Woo hoo! [21:20] What you need is more West Coasters [21:20] hello Drum! [21:20] Hello Drum [21:20] hi drum [21:20] hey Drum [21:20] Hey all! [21:20] agreed Rovena [21:20] Sean! [21:20] Drum! [21:20] yeah, like me :) [21:20] I will trade you three East Coasters for some warmer weather [21:20] Where are you from trentdirenna [21:20] lol drum [21:20] [Owlhawk] At least I don't have to shovel it yet. [21:21] come visit here Drum, it's in the 90s [21:21] San Luis Obispo, CA [21:21] Yay! [21:21] it was 85 degrees here today [21:21] It was actually warm and wet here today [21:21] autumn weather [21:21] you're in sacramento, right? [21:21] lol [21:21] yes [21:21] it _might_ rain here later tonight [21:21] _might_ [21:21] same here. [21:22] ...though probably not [21:22] it's been raining here [21:22] it's supposed to drop down to 75 degrees tomorrow with rain. [21:22] We had a massive boom yesterday; felt in 3 parishes and no one knows what caused it [21:22] *possible* rain [21:22] really? wow [21:23] [Owlhawk] odd [21:23] Probably Dick Chenedy [21:23] It shook my car as I was driving [21:23] Cheney [21:23] lol [21:23] I withdraw that last comment ;) [21:23] he probsbly was hunting [21:23] LOL [21:23] probably [21:23] true [21:23] huh weird [21:23] heh [21:23] Earth Quake Rovena? [21:24] No; I have been in earhtquakes. This was above ground [21:24] More like a sonic boom [21:24] Military swears they had nothing in the air [21:24] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:25] Not sure I believe them [21:25] Hmmm [21:25] Three parishes, that is quite the boom [21:26] Yes it shook buildings [21:26] Don't know if it was a sonic boom but it has the feel of one [21:26] It's a strange world! [21:27] [Owlhawk] would a sonic boom affect three parishes? [21:27] Yes it is [21:27] Don't know [21:28] Unless something else (really big) blew up [21:28] Haven't found anything and news copters have been looking [21:29] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:29] frickin chat kicked me... [21:29] or possibly my internet [21:30] I promise we didn't do it to you [21:31] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [21:32] Unless you didn't know the secret handshake [21:32] Welcome back :) [21:32] Rovena! It's secret! [21:33] ;) [21:33] *** Jefftos (Mibbit@6ca5ed1a.6ca5f080.174.134.imsk) has joined #ADF [21:34] *** Jefftos (Mibbit@6ca5ed1a.6ca5f080.174.134.imsk) has quit IRC [Client Quit] [21:34] *** TrentDirenna (Mibbit@37bcff35.dhcp.trlk.ca.4e125616.com.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:34] Trent is gone again! [21:34] ai ya [21:34] happened again [21:34] Welcome back again!!! [21:34] thanks, again [21:34] heh [21:35] So, what are folks working on? [21:35] reports [21:35] [Owlhawk] Urging the Leafs to tie up this game [21:35] Chapter 2 of 2nd book review [21:35] dinner, in a bit :) [21:36] Watched the Cardinals lose and hoping the Royals don't follow them [21:36] yes, Rovena!!! [21:37] (about the book report) [21:37] Hey, I'm a die-hard cardinals fan [21:37] lol [21:37] *ducks behind desk* [21:38] I do throw curve balls [21:39] lol [21:39] I'm going to get going. it's always a pleasure everyone [21:39] good night] [21:39] night Sean! [21:39] nice chatting with you [21:39] always [21:39] *** SeanHarbaugh (Mibbit@14055a91.6ca5ed20.99.30.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:40] Night! [21:42] For those working on the DP, please please please use a spell checker before you turn it in [21:42] [Owlhawk] lol [21:42] :) [21:43] I think we need to put that on the submission page: [21:43] Did you put your name on your submission? [21:43] Did you spell check? [21:43] It can sub in a properly spelled word that doesn't belong [21:43] Yep [21:43] [Owlhawk] don't you know that spelling is crowd sourced now? [21:44] [Owlhawk] creativity is encouraged in school! [21:44] heh [21:44] lol, you aren't joking are you? [21:45] [Owlhawk] sadly, I'm not....at least it seems that way now adays [21:45] I am going to alter the universe at my altar in the constellation altair [21:45] They aren't even teaching cursive writing any more [21:45] *** Victoria-Leona1 (Victoria@32400699.lightspeed.sntcca.3e6fd2e2.net.hmsk) has joined #ADF [21:45] [Owlhawk] lol [21:45] and back! [21:45] after figuring out how to IRC on my mac [21:45] They need to. My cursive was horrible [21:45] [Owlhawk] No they aren't. I was disappointed when my brother told me that [21:46] [Owlhawk] And tonght's prayer is answered, the game is now 2-2! [21:46] I had left-handed affinities which were "encouraged" out of me in Grade 2 [21:46] welcome back :) [21:46] ty [21:46] They waited that long? [21:46] they made you become right-handed? [21:47] yikes [21:47] [Owlhawk] my best friend had the trouble in school. [21:47] Yes [21:47] My Mum used to teach kindergarden … most other teachers would force the kids to write right handed [21:47] did you ever go back Drum? [21:47] No, but I do many things left-handed [21:48] My parents weren't (and still aren't) fans of left-handedness [21:49] jeez [21:49] it's interesting how things can be "weird" to different groups [21:49] i don't think any of the teacher i had in school ever tried anything like that [21:50] lefties were allowed to be lefties [21:50] My mother trained us out of them early. Every time we reach for anything with the left she took it away and offered to the right [21:50] Remember the old word for "left" - "sinestra" [21:50] yep :) [21:50] oh I remember from my SCA days :) [21:50] Interesting Rovena [21:50] it's italian for left [21:50] That is the way to do it, however [21:51] It was a gentle way [21:51] it's sure nicer than saying "no" all the time [21:51] you used to do SCA Victoria? [21:51] Yep, the Spanish took izquierda as an alternate [21:51] yes Trent .. when I was in Florida. (Trimaris) [21:52] I was in Meridies which became Gleann Abhann [21:53] cool [21:53] I think we traveled there once with a Court [21:54] Cool Remember where? [21:54] I used to do it in Jersey, which is the East Kingdom [21:54] Nice Trent … Rovena .. it was a dusty field somewhere :) [21:54] i've been to a local SCA meeting here, but nowadays I seem to do more LARPing [21:55] never tried larping [21:55] I know folks who do though .. and they have fun [21:55] in fact, one is closer to you :) in San Diego [21:57] Well folks, time for me to vanish,,,goodnight! [21:58] nite Drum! [21:58] Night, Drum [21:58] [Owlhawk] good night [21:58] night! [21:58] *** Drum (Mibbit@14055acf.6ca5ecde.73.161.imsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [21:59] alright I'm heading out! night all [22:00] *** SaraKBlackwelder (Mibbit@6e188568.tampfl.fios.36f5c1fe.net.hmsk) has quit IRC [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:00] Night, Sara [22:00] there's actually a LARP right here in SLO [22:00] which is possibly why Im doing that now :) [22:01] hee hee … it's good to have local fun [22:02] yep :) [22:02] im probably going to have some dinner in a little bit [22:02] Mine's heating up atm [22:02] do you know when the next valley oak thing is? I might try and come up for it [22:02] I should be there at Samhain .. Nov 1 [22:03] cool [22:03] i might be there for that one [22:03] cool [22:04] yep :) [22:06] before Valley Oak, I used to visit Sean a lot more [22:07] now we have a local grove, I don't get up to Sacremento very much [22:08] gotcha [22:08] someone told me of an ADF group down where I am...not a grove but some more informal [22:08] said person has yet to get back to me with any more details [22:08] that's kind of cool :) at least there are some folks [22:09] there are almost no pagans here, really [22:09] there's no one within 30 mins of me … I'd like more folks to just hang out with [22:09] really? [22:09] the ones that do exist kinda hide [22:09] yeah [22:09] aren't you in a college town? [22:09] i found one group at one point [22:09] it's a conservative college town [22:09] lots of christians [22:09] ohhhh [22:10] but that group was, well, kinda lame [22:10] and then they also seemed to disappear [22:10] i think maybe they're some college pagans [22:10] there's a lot of new age spirituality stuff [22:10] without you, what chance did they have? [22:11] like Native American dances and sweat lodges [22:11] i went to one of their rituals [22:11] they were supposedly wiccan [22:11] but like Silver Ravenwolf Wiccan [22:11] umm … I've read her blog .. she's not Wiccan [22:11] exactly :-P [22:11] interesting crafty ideas though .. like art & craft kind of craft [22:12] yeah [22:12] [Owlhawk] depends on how you define wiccan. [22:12] I worked with a Wiccan group back in NJ [22:12] I lost one girl 'cause I would let her write Samhain ritual even though she admitted she didn't understand ADF ritual [22:13] [Owlhawk] I wouldn't say Silver Ravenwolf isn't wiccan. I know a coven leader in her tradition. [22:13] She was a 'natural' witch so she didn't have to study anything [22:13] [Owlhawk] ugh [22:14] @Owl true on the definitions … I tend to think more Alexandrian/Gardenarian when I think of Wiccan [22:15] wow Rovena … umm … special? [22:15] Yes, she thinks she is [22:16] We are all special snowflakes [22:16] :) [22:17] I admit that I still have lots to learn but I am at least welling to learn [22:17] definately .. that's huge! [22:17] and it's about context … I know about organizing some things, but if you asked me to organize a pagan event, I'd be looking for help [22:17] [Owlhawk] that is the first, and most important, lesson to be learned [22:17] same with writing rituals … if it's not a format you're used to … get help! [22:18]